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Figured the pictures would overwhelm the other thread about "Mitch's transmission for Biskwik.

These were mostly taken when I first got the car plus piles of parts, fall of 2006.

Needless to say, completing car has not been a top priority. Still isn't.

Car was in Pennsylvania, sitting in garage, bare metal, body patches, repairs incomplete.

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Pieces loaded into my Van to come home.
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Rained all the way back, bagged it, but needed to prime right away to protect.
Off trailer, prior to prime.2006-11001.jpg2006-11002.jpg2006-11003.jpg2006-11004.jpg2006-11005.jpg2006-11006.jpg2006-11007.jpg2006-11008.jpg2006-11009.jpg



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This car has been moved thru five (5) different storage locations since I bought it, not counting when at shop.
I bought it because I felt it had great "bones"
Was original 6 cyl. manual tranny, 39000 mile vehicle.
Frame was done, outside floors were done, inside still original paint, NO rust or pits.
12 Bolt, disc brakes all urethane bushings, etc.
Original owner planned to "clone" up a big block.
He also had a really nice done 66 post big block car.
A couple more pictures, tomorrow I will update to current status.

Came with NOS fenders too, they are on Biskwik, bought some others later.

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Interesting history. This is B number ??

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Looks like you will have some shelving start opening up for the next project in the batting order.
Amazing how much rom is used for a blown up car.

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Blown up car and multiple cars parted out, may take a while.

Two ElCaminos in play and now another Biscayne active.

Also another G-body Elky getting motor.

Plus another 66 4 door hardtop car apart.

Glad my Son and Son-in-Law have interest and ambition.

Kevin, B for build?

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Sorry Karl, that was me being lazy. B = Biscayne.
I recall Biskwik from your winter get together 2011 or 12 (I moved to Ohio fall of 13) and did not know if this was Biskwik at an earlier stage or yet another adventure.

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Biskwik is my first Biscayne build.
I have multiple post cars, including a pretty dry green one with an aged $99.95 paint job.
"Basket" case moved up a lot because my body guys needed something to do.

I am very fortunate that I work with people that are tolerant and way better at their job than I am.

Here are some old pictures from when I purchased, when done and one from the drag strip, "back in the day"

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Some pictures from yesterday and today.

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Nice work on the Biscayne, but WOW, your back room looks empty !!

I'd offer my Camaro to give the guys something to do...dunno



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More pictures of current status.

Dash was warped and hacked up replaced upper area, came out well.

I have saved several upper dash panels because they rust out badly.

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As of yesterday.



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Looks like you will be buffing in no timerolleyes



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This is a sprayable polyester filler/primer.

This will get blocked and re-sealed with epoxy.

The frame for this car is the roller platform for the 427 "Mitchs' transmission project drivetrain.

Body will go on Rotisserie for floor pan detail once in final prime.

Blue Elky should be ready to come off rotisserie the first part of next week.

Chugging along, wish we had more workconfused even though progress on these cars comes to a halt when things pick up.

That is why the Blue Elky has been apart for 25 years.headscratch

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Basket Case polyester being blocked.

May even have in final primer-surfacer by end of week.

CHUG-CHUG-CHUG

Had no expectation this body would be this far along, this soon.

May end up using original hood from car, instead of NOS, less damage, may save NOS hood for another day.

Fenders (NOS) will go out for stripping and cleaning.

Shell will end up on Rotisserie when Blue Elky comes off.

Once re-primed, dash, upper inner doors and rear glass opening will get refinished in low gloss medium interior blue.

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Pretty sure we are just going to use one of my already reconditioned hoods, save NOS for later.

Body shell now in final primer surfacer.

After hood use verified and fitted, front will be disassembled, fenders and core support sent out for stripping.

Dash, upper doors, and rear window opening will be painted with low gloss medium blue.

Once that is done, body will go on rotisserie for outer floor detail.

Plan on swapping roller differential into this frame platform so we can re-purpose that 4:11 diffi. into Biskwik.

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Fenders and some trim, sent out for stripping.

Pictures show before and after.

New old stock cleans up really well.

Now we epoxy, and fix dents as needed.

Ended up using a reconditioned hood, it is now in final prime.

Next batch for stripping will be: Core support, Wheel housings and some brackets.

Body can now go on Rotisserie once I get wheels on my body cart.

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Looking forward to seeing the finished product, it will be really nice!thumbsup



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Very clean. Are you going to take the next batch to Blooming Prairie for powder coating ?
They did a REALLY nice job on the Camaro parts...thumbsup



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Have not decided yet on the all black pieces.
I really like the quality at Xtreme Powder Coating in Blooming Prairie.
They did the frame on the white Elky.

Ron ground many of the factory welds, knocked off the slag and retouched many of the weld seams.
We had it Sandblasted in Shakopee, he detailed it a little more, then down to Blooming Prairie.

They cooked it to remove oil from inner rails and touched up the sand blasting.

Did the Prime, bake to gel primer spray color and re-bake.
VERY nice outcome.

It will probably depend on how pitted the wheel housings are.

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Fenders being prepped for Epoxy and sprayed.

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Now they are ready for repair of dents.

Business improving, however, still a long way from good.

Thinking these projects will end up back in the "Treasure Chest" in another month or so, hopefully.

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In another month, they should be in paint and ready for assembly at the toy box...stirpot



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Doors and deck lid removed for Edging (cut-in)
I bought this car because it was almost rust free and partially repaired.
Many major things completed.
The door bottoms are an example of that, PRISTINE!

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Just some boring epoxy pictures.
Caulk this weekend.

Cut in after that.

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Must be nice to be working with such nice steelrolleyes

Looking good!



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Caulked!

 

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Blue doors, hinges and trunk!

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Larry Lucast wrote:

Nice color!


 I'll second that !!  Did it have the light blue cloth interior too ?



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Trying to match the OE color, except basecoat/Clear.
Does have Blue cloth, headliner nice, still in car.
The earlier pictures In this post do sneak some shots of the interior before I boxed it up.
The only place with the original color now is the cowl hinge area, trunk opening and a bit on the rockers.

Next project, caulk, color underside of dash at interior firewall.
Refinish correct semi-gloss darker blue color on dash, upper door frames, windshield and 1/4 glass opening inside trim and rear glass opening.

Install Weather-strip on doors, fit doors and hinges.
Doors will come back off, unbolting at cowl when everything gets painted.

Floor pans on outside on this one also need to get touched up, will be mounted on rotisserie next, after dark blue on dash and trim is complete.
Upper shell probably will get painted still on rotisserie.
Use two booths, one for Shell, one for parts.

Remember, this frame will end up under Biskwik with the 427 crate motor.
Differential (4:11) will go under Biskwik for now.headscratch

Complete Biskwik current frame, Suspension, drivetrain, 454/Muncie/ this 4:11, drum brakes, power steering, will ultimately be under this car.
That will stretch this project out a bit!dunno

I think I am confusing myself.banghead
Updates regarding that Frame repower, re-tranny project will be under the "Mitch's Transmission for Biskwik" thread.beers

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Karl,
I’m always in awe of your project's, all of them, too have so many going at once and the quality of the builds is a little mind blowing.
I have a question regarding the seem sealing on your doors. Did the factory use seem sealer where the inner and outer doors are joined together.?


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Glad you can keep it all straight, perhaps you have a flowchart to help.
Looking forward to seeing them done.

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I’m always in awe of your project's, all of them, too have so many going at once and the quality of the builds is a little mind blowing.
I have a question regarding the seem sealing on your doors. Did the factory use seem sealer where the inner and outer doors are joined together.?


 Yes, a thin swipe that didn't stay on long. You can see the remnants of it on this '66 door.

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I most cases, yes on seam sealer.
It was a pinkish white color for most of the 60's.
My "guy" removed most of it with a scuff pad style wheel.
My Caulking was with a Rubberized Crest product.
Brushes out very much like the 3M product we also use.
Mitch's picture is consistent with most, however there are a few other areas that they spread product on also.

I think the thickness/appearance could very significantly from Plant to Plant and Model to Model
Full size tended to have a little more.

I am not the "caulking god" I do have one Technician that is a true artist.

I just smear it on and hope for the best.
I still come back over it, scuff it, to knock it down.

Remember, I have a short attention span and prefer many things in the air.
Ran Production for almost 35 years, have had own Business for 34.
I get bored easily.

Trying to remember all this stuff is a good "Cognition" test.

Thanks for your comments,
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Thanks guys!

Karl, I also have a short attention span plus a terrible memory. I’m certainly not an artist by any means so I elected not chalk the door seams prior to paint. I will use a high gloss color matching silicone on the doors and trunk. The underside, trunk to wheel wells and engine compartment were done with AC Delco Body Seam sealer prior to paint.

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Mitch is not the only one that struggles with interior colors.
My painter shot this last Friday, did not do test panels to compare with correct color.
Result:IMG_6763.JPGIMG_6764.JPGIMG_6765.JPGIMG_6776.JPGIMG_6792.JPGIMG_6793.JPG

Second time around, with test panels, we are good.

 



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Fenders in sprayable polyester surfacer.

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Next:
Install doors, fit with weather strips.
Install decklid, fit to 1/4 extensions.
Drill fenders for Biscayne emblems, and marker nameplates with engine designation.
Block fenders, final prime.
Pull Body place on Rotisserie.
Detail floors.

Getting there!
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confusedI don't have a vanity plate for this car, maybe I should try for COVID Shutup

Happy to see progress on this car in my lifetime, very saddened for the reason.

 

Very Difficult times.

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Happy to see progress on this car in my lifetime, very saddened for the reason.

 

Very Difficult times.


 

I really hope business will improve soon. Great to see progress on the projects, but it's hard to be excited for you knowing the reasons.

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I love that stage when you do jams and window openings, etc. It looks like real progress.

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Thanks Guys, no Pity Party here, just life.

Currently, 50-50 probability Basket Case will become all one color prior to re-joining the "MOTH BALL" fleet.

I would love to see it all one color after so many years, with no real plan.

As stated, Body shell by itself, maybe with deck lid on stand.
Leave it on rotisserie to paint.

Front Sheetmetal, doors, misc. in other booth, all at same time.

One way or the other pretty sure it is out of Burnsville shop by October.

Just Sayin,
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Karl, you have some amazing stuff going on there. Somehow I think you’ll be one color by October.


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Karl, you have some amazing stuff going on there. Somehow I think you’ll be one color by October.

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This is why we do spray-outs (test panels)IMG_6800.JPG

Two panels, lighter on left, base color only.

Right clear coated with gloss reducer.

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