Discussion Forum - Northstar Chevelle Club

Lost in the 60s wrote:

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Well, that answers my question of if you are taking her all the way...

Looks like you're going for the home run...

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 It may be more like 3 consecutive walks and hit by a pitch, but it will still score a run 

Thanks 

Thanks Stan,
Decided to Jam with Single stage and see how it went.
I'm pretty encouraged by the first steps and at this point plan to do the whole car with it.
Concerned that supper shiny will put too much of a spotlight the "less than prefect areas".
Hopefully it will look similar to factory back in 71.
Still undecided on the stripes, however Cheryl is not a bid fan of them.
Guess we will see, kind of like the idea of a cowl hood with out stripes.

more ambition than brains wrote:

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Sometimes shinier and less orange peel does not provide a better look.

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Bruce, don't make the same mistake the seller did on my car by using a cheap single stage though, or you'll get the ginormous orange peel look like I have on mine that's probably 5 times worse than the factory paint jobs.  And it's a metallic so can't be polished out.  I knew it when I bought the car, but at least I don't worry about super straight paint anymore.  

Lost in the 60s wrote:

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SShink wrote:

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more ambition than brains wrote:

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Sometimes shinier and less orange peel does not provide a better look.

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Bruce, don't make the same mistake the seller did on my car by using a cheap single stage though, or you'll get the ginormous orange peel look like I have on mine that's probably 5 times worse than the factory paint jobs.  And it's a metallic so can't be polished out.  I knew it when I bought the car, but at least I don't worry about super straight paint anymore.  

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 Usually not the quality of paint. Single stage, when applied properly, will lay down like glass and not need cutting/buffing. The person and gun make all the difference in the world.

Bruce, are you using Omni ?

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The seller told me he used the '$700' paint instead of the '$1400' paint which is what makes me think the materials made a difference.  In other words, he went with the cheap stuff and it turned out that way. 

I can always have it scuffed and re-shot with a base coat/clear coat as the metal underneath is all good (have pics of it stripped down to bare metal), but why make it that nice and not want to drive it.   

Orange peel is determined by application skill, solvent speed and gun adjustment.
Air temperature proper product mixture and flash time are very important.
By its nature an enamel has slightly more orange peel than a lacquer based product.

The cost of the paint has little to do with final texture.

Maaco uses a value priced product, however, their painters do more completes in a week than we do in a year.
There may be issues with preparation, body work and possibly generally poor condition of the beginning vehicle, but their application is usually quite good.

Clear coats provide more options, but the clear is still basically a single stage product.

Off the record, sometimes 25-30% clear has been added to a single stage after the first coat, gives more depth and gloss.
That would usually require three coats and a color that hides well.
Typically most reds cover fairly well in single stage.

I am right there with Mitch on paint products as they are all pretty good, some times we are buying a name.
We upgraded one of our shops to a higher level product and went with water for the Basecoat.
Side by side it would be difficult to identify which paint is which once applied.
I can however, see differences in the application outcome of our four different painters.
Not bad, just different.

Karl

Starting to see red, not that that is a bad thing.
Getting is reassenbled
Hope to have all the exterior sanding done before its cold so it can be painted.
That should give me all witer to get it done

Looks great Bruce! 

We should get a little warm weather yet. Get that prep work done so your ready!!!

Getting close with the jamming, gaps and body lines.
Since the goal is "close to factory" condition, it looks like it will be close to the nominal for most gaps and much better than it was.

It is back to sanding today, starting to look good for having the red all sprayed this fall and then have the winter to complete the reassembly. 

So I've got that going for me.... Which is nice!

Lost in the 60s wrote:

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Looks good, but don't tape a hard line for jamming. Let the overspray flow out on the panel. It will be much easier to feather sand that and blend the final coats, than sand that line down so it doesn't show up later.

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Thanks Mitch.

I did the no tape with over spray on the loose parts. Feathered the edge so hopefully it will be okay. All part od the hands on training process. 

Looks really good, Bruce. I should have you paint my Camaro...

Was going to ask if these should be silver, but then decided on my car they will be.
Should be brighter than if they were red (or one gold and one blue?!)

Hopefully will be a red car soon

Lost in the 60s wrote:

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Silver is good. I painted mine with chrome in a can. Slightly more shine to reflect the light.

Better hurry with the paint......winter is coming early this year...

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 Back to the fifties and sixties towards the ned of the week.

Picked up the paint yesterday, the paint odyssey is nearing the end

Sorry I missed the meeting and the run to Elmer's closing, but it has been several long days on the Chevelle, coinciding with perhaps the last few days in the 60's.
The old yellow car is now red. Yes it is an amateur paint job, but a big improvement and starts my escape from the CAC

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Thanks Mitch

All one color, red, glossy, only thing that matters.
You made GREAT time on project.
Beyond happy for you!
Now, every piece you install makes a huge difference.

If too perfect, it becomes a Garage/Trailer Queen, that was never your plan, I believe.

Congrats!!!
Karl

Nice job Bruce!

It will snowball the other way to completion now when you start putting the parts back on.

Karl's right, there's nothing wrong with a garage paint job and it's no fun driving something that's just super nice.  You'll enjoy this more.  

First post, 12/25/15

My 71 convert is in the shop this winter and the 59 Nomad is in storage.

Plan is to stay focused and not delve into a full restoration.

step one is to replace the old gas tank (leaks form the top if full, and yes it is the one i got from you ~4 years ago), and patch up the trunk.

also want to clean up the in interior, perhaps recover the seats, fix the odometer and clean up the engine and under the hood.

still unsure of the paint status, will be fixing several areas (like the door seam i had to weld up on the upper drivers door, as it had split ~3")

will post some updates with pictures as it gets moving

Point of no return Feb 28, 2017

BLyke wrote:

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May be hitting the point of no return as far as keeping it simple goes.
bumpers are off, trim and seals are removed, need to rebuild the hinge on the passengers side

• so might as well pull the fender to do it
• really should do both sides
• as long as it is a part jam the door openings
• and the firewall
• and the trunk opening
• and, and ,and...

So now consider taking it back to original blue paint color.....

 

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 Thanks guys for all of the positive commnets.

My plan was to make this a decent driver and learn how to do some new things.

Guess the next thing will be wet sanding...

-- Edited by BLyke on Monday 21st of October 2019 09:20:52 PM

SShink wrote:

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Here's another flashback post Bruce from the beginning that's in the 'Members Rides' section of the club website:

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 Yep, I just could not leave it as is