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Only if ordering parts qualifies.  I decided to go with the Global West upper control arm Off-Set shafts.  Since this is a driver/cruiser and I am  trying to avoid a harsh ride, I am using all new Moog rubber bushings.  I also ordered new 1/2“ taller ball joints.  Going with OE Spectrum shocks.  Tear down to begin this coming Wednesday. 



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Hope that works well for you Jim. I would not start until every component has arrived, been inspected and is on your work bench.

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Everything is out.  Now to remove the bushings and send the arms and springs to the powder coater.  Hope to have them back by January 1.  Going to start the unpleasant job of cleaning the undercarriage and steering components.  Then I can paint and start to reassemble.



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Hope it goes well, I'm still debating on doing the front end on my 71.

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Knowing what I know from going through the disassembly, I could do it in 1/4 the time.



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jim larson wrote:

Everything is out.  Now to remove the bushings and send the arms and springs to the powder coater.  Hope to have them back by January 1.  Going to start the unpleasant job of cleaning the undercarriage and steering components.  Then I can paint and start to reassemble.



-- Edited by jim larson on Saturday 3rd of December 2022 02:47:02 PM


 Have them put tape in the bushing holes, so they don't build up a heavy layer of powder in there. I've had to grind all that out to get new bushings in...



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BLyke wrote:

Hope it goes well, I'm still debating on doing the front end on my 71.


 Perfect January tech session, membership payment, pizza and pot luck dessert event !!

Replacement for the Brunch...thumbsup

We'll have that front end stripped in NO time. If it's anything like the last time the crew was at my place, your car will be stripped to the bare frame, all the way to the firewall for an engine overhaul too...laughing



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Lost in the 60s wrote:
BLyke wrote:

Hope it goes well, I'm still debating on doing the front end on my 71.


 Perfect January tech session, membership payment, pizza and pot luck dessert event !!

Replacement for the Brunch...thumbsup

We'll have that front end stripped in NO time. If it's anything like the last time the crew was at my place, your car will be stripped to the bare frame, all the way to the firewall for an engine overhaul too...laughing



-- Edited by Lost in the 60s on Sunday 4th of December 2022 09:57:11 PM


 You might be on to something, or you might be on somethingrolleyes

Something to ponder, its likely that I live the closest to Karls former place, but the proposed meal will be a big step down

Are you a "Subject matter expert" on the process? I'm just starting to search the web for videos headscratch



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Bruce, if the people involved with other front end rebuilds/replacements come to this, you would have all the help, knowledge, experience and tools you could hope for.
Just Stan alone, has a wealth of experience, along with myself, the C&C rescue team, Bob W and many others.
If this is something you are truly interested in, shoot me a call or a PM and I'll get the ball rolling.
Yes, the meal would be a serious step down, but we WERE rather spoiled by Karl.

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Bushings and ball joints out.  With the help, garage, and tools from my friend Duane and a former student.  I just had to use Duane's parts washer to get things a little clean for the powder coater.  



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Nice !! Great to have some tools and help to make this easy. I LIKE that tool he has to prevent the arms from collapsing. I use a piece of exhaust pipe and a similar pulling tool.

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I welded this kit up from 3/16” pipe.



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Nice job as ever Kevin.  Well parts are off to the Powder Coater.  Typical product from China.  Cheap  low grade bolt to go into the cross shaft.  Former student cut off the section that was striped by the nut And welded on a bigger et threaded part and bigger nut to make it work better, though not pretty.



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Hopefully these are the last parts to order.  Discovered the PO had not put these  back when the ball joints were changed.  And he had some of the linkage apart to put in a repo idler arm and I think a PS pitman arm and didn’t put in or lost the seals for the center link. It appears the tie rods and seals are original

 

. https://www.inlinetube.com/products/inl11097



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The Vikings were so bad, I decided to finish priming the steering components.  Came in to catch Cook scoring a TD. Now to finish went the cast iron paint arrives?  Maybe I should wait until the next game.



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Just got more parts powder coated.  P&L plating , wabasha, mn the owner is a former student.  He just hand delivered them today.  F5F0FBA5-51DC-4EFC-9B9E-2FF10FCE4008.jpegIf your thinking of coating something  you may want to check them out.  Boy a lot easier than cleaning and painting myself. 



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WOW, they look great ! and NO powder in the bushing/ball joint holes...nana

Shouldn't be any problem pushing the bushings in. I brought the press up front from the back shed to use.



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Are you still thinking about a tech session?  I still have to paint the cross-shafts.  Then everything’s should be ready.  I want to get that accomplished this week. But I have to sand or blast them first?  I have an another OLD set of arms if you might want to demonstrate bushing & joint removal.

 

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Been working on planning this for weeks, you better be here...razz

https://nschevelles.activeboard.com/t69060925/official-january-14th-meeting-tech-session-and-pot-luck-lunc/?w_r=1672716952#lastPostAnchor

Sure you can bring the old arms with, in case we have time for that.



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I will be there.  Bob mentioned to me at the Xmass  party that he had made special piece out of pvc tubing that he uses on upper CA to install the bushings.  It fits exactly between the inner ears of the CA and over the shaft  so he can use a press to push in the bushings.  If he plans to attend, maybe he could bring it along? I can ask him.



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Yes I do plan on making the meeting and will bring tools.



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Between Bob, me and my shop press, we should be all set for tools.

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88E9A857-10BE-4A9A-A225-AE293142A7A4.jpegA special thanks to Mitch and Bob for bushing and ball joints install at the recent club meeting.  Just finished the frame painting after hours of cleaning, scraping and painting.  Finally done



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That looks great, Jim.

I think you want that lower arm on the other side though ? Oval bushing on the rear ?

And the spring needs to be turned over before install. Open end to the bottom.



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Looks good Jim.

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