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dashboard · 2K+ Club

Bill Of Sale

Lost in the 60s · President

dashboard wrote:

Anyone have any experience with buying a 40+ year old car and only receiving a Bill Of Sale?

Any idea what the unintended consequences might be out there?
Crossing state lines?

Call the Ohio DMV and ask them if you can get a clear title from one or if it has to be bonded. Ask if they can tell you who the current titled owner is to see if it's the person selling the car. If it is or it's out of the data base because of age, request the seller to get a title and then you'll buy the car. It's an expensive PITA to get a clear title here on one. I don't buy anything without a clear title.

I'm leaving for CO in the morning for the Corvair I agreed to buy 4 months ago on the condition he got a clear CO title. He now has it in his hand.

The unintended consequences could be that someone has the title and could come take the car.

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Thanks Mitch, it just happens the car involved is in CO.

Lost in the 60s · President

He should be able to apply for a new title and provide it to you, just as my seller did. Takes some work on their part but better than you having to do the work and pay for it all.

dashboard · 2K+ Club

He is willing to do that but as you know it takes time. Where is the Corvair in CO?

Lost in the 60s · President

You don't want to be going to CO this time of year anyway. Let him do the work...

My car is in Watkins. Eastern side of Denver. I don't have to go in the mountains this time...

Other than the severe winds blowing snow across the freeway, the drive looks decent. The wind is supposed to die down overnight, so I hope the road crew is out early to get the drifts off the road.

I should be going to bed....4 bells will come all too soon.

John D · 2K+ Club

I went "through the hoops" with a '76 Nova coupe a while ago in MN. Got the scoop from the DMV. Basically amounted to establishing a court-date (small claims), sending out registered letters to all known (via the state system) previous owners stating "If you have an interest in this vehicle..... show up at xx date, xx time, xx place and state your claim". If no-one shows the judge clears the title and it's yours.
There were a few fees involved getting "certified" records from the DMV.

Lost in the 60s · President

John D wrote:
I went "through the hoops" with a '76 Nova coupe a while ago in MN. Got the scoop from the DMV. Basically amounted to establishing a court-date (small claims), sending out registered letters to all known (via the state system) previous owners stating "If you have an interest in this vehicle..... show up at xx date, xx time, xx place and state your claim". If no-one shows the judge clears the title and it's yours.
There were a few fees involved getting "certified" records from the DMV.

You can only do that now if you have a security interest in the vehicle, such as an unpaid repair or tow bill. A common citizen has to "bond" the title for 3 years, which can cost a bit depending on the value the STATE assigns, not necessarily what was actually paid...

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Thanks guys. Mitch thought you where going to bed. Temps should be in the high 40 to 50s during the day for your drive, drive safe and be sure check your lug nuts.

Guy says he can get a title for the car, I'll wait and see what happens. I'm not going to be jumping through hoops for weeks to get a title in Ohio for a car out of Colorado.

Dan Williams · Active Member

I believe Ohio is one of the easiest states to get a title. I have known people that had a car that had no title, so they had relatives title it in Ohio and then transferred it to Iowa. Of course I found that out after I went through the bonded title thing with one of my cars. (origional Michigan car, than Arkansas and finally NY, none of those states ever required a title for cars pre 75 or so). That has been quite awhile ago so I have no idea if that is still the case or if Ohio changed their rules. I do know several long time Ohio residents that are car guys, I would be willing to call one or two if it would help.

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Thanks for the offer Dan but the car sold so it's not an issue anymore.

John D · 2K+ Club

So.....?? What was the potential "project"??? Hmmmmm??? Quit teasing us....

dashboard · 2K+ Club

No teasing or secrets here JD, I’m still looking for another project. I liked this 69 Skylark and was thinking 300HP LS or small block with deep gears, five speed, brakes, meaty rubber, deep steel rims with the poverty caps and leave the paint as is.

But on this one I dilly dallied to long, the car did not have a clear title so I backed off for a while, traded emails with the person listing the car, ydda, ydda and the car sold on its second listing. If the deal falls through I may revisit it.

68 Skylark.jpg

Lost in the 60s · President

I didn't think the Skylarks came in a sedan. Almost looks like a Special.

What happened with the "number" car in Eastern OH ??

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Your correct I should have called it a Special but it’s actually the Special Deluxe.
The numbers car a 71 442 W30 was nice and it was all there but I felt the price was just to high for the work it needed. If I had your skills Mitch I would have bought it.

It was worth the seven hour drive in a snow storm though just to see the guys collection. Several GS’s, 442‘s, Z28’s even a Cuda.

Lost in the 60s · President

dashboard wrote:
Your correct I should have called it a Special but it’s actually the Special Deluxe.
The numbers car a 71 442 W30 was nice and it was all there but I felt the price was just to high for the work it needed. If I had your skills Mitch I would have bought it.

It was worth the seven hour drive in a snow storm though just to see the guys collection. Several GS’s, 442‘s, Z28’s even a Cuda.

You can develop the metal skills the same way I did......buy some tools and DIG IN...

Did you get any pics of the collection ??

dashboard · 2K+ Club

I did not, he needed to get back to work and I needed to drive 160 miles before dark. The only pictures I did get where of the car and it's parts. But he had lots of stuff in there including a couple of 35 foot boats most of the cars where covered up and I only got to peak at a couple of them. Here's a teaser of a I think 61 or 2 Pontiac 421 4 speed car.

SShink · 3K+ Club

dashboard wrote:
No teasing or secrets here JD, I’m still looking for another project. I liked this 69 Skylark and was thinking 300HP LS or small block with deep gears, five speed, brakes, meaty rubber, deep steel rims with the poverty caps and leave the paint as is.

So what's a stock gem like this one go for in Ohio? $4-6K?

dashboard · 2K+ Club

SShink wrote:
So what's a stock gem like this one go for in Ohio? $4-6K?

I don't know, it hasn't sold yet but if I could have bought it for that it would be in my garage. I'm going to look at a 67 Skylark tomorrow.

Chris R · 2K+ Club

I got a bill of sale when I bought my 69SS from Bruce Tischida several years ago.

Derek69SS · Founding Member

Chris R wrote:
I got a bill of sale when I bought my 69SS from Bruce Tschida several years ago.

Have you tried to get a title yet?

If not, I would do so ASAP. The rules keep changing making it harder and harder to get a title... it will never be any easier than it is right now.

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Derek69SS wrote:
Have you tried to get a title yet?
If not, I would do so ASAP. The rules keep changing making it harder and harder to get a title... it will never be any easier than it is right now.

Very wise counsel

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dashboard · 2K+ Club

Sometimes….I drove 60 miles in blowing snow to meet a guy waayy out in the country at an old furniture store where he has some cars and parts stored. We both arrived at about the same time, we stepped out of our cars shook hands and then as we started toward the building entrance he realized he had the wrong set of keys. Oh well there’s tomorrow

Lost in the 60s · President

dashboard wrote:
Sometimes….I drove 60 miles in blowing snow to meet a guy waayy out in the country at an old furniture store where he has some cars and parts stored. We both arrived at about the same time, we stepped out of our cars shook hands and then as we started toward the building entrance he realized he had the wrong set of keys. Oh well there’s tomorrow

The first year my dad died, I drove 160 miles up to his cabin to check on it and when I got there, realized I had no keys... Nothing was broken into, so I came back home...

Bungy L-76 · Active Member

When I bought my Fairmont couple years ago, guy never had a title. I went to the DMV and they said I had a couple of choices. One was the bonding deal and the other was the way I went. I had to fill out a form and explain why no title, take four pictures of the car (all sides), and had to pay a fee. I think it was around $80. Four weeks later I got a title in the mail. I have copies of this form if anyone wants one.

Lost in the 60s · President

I don't need a copy right now, but dang sure hold onto that for future use. I've never heard of that being offered to a common citizen....