Discussion Forum - Northstar Chevelle Club

Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: The "new" small block Chevy...LT1!


Super Poster

Status: Offline
Posts: 663
Date:
The "new" small block Chevy...LT1!
Permalink  
 


So, Chevy is launching an all new small block. It replaces the LS series and nothing swaps between them. A new era is here! http://www.enginelabs.com/news/breaking-news-chevy-gen-v-small-block-reveal/ So...here go..again!

__________________

Scott Parkhurst

Belle Plaine

 

Horsepower Junkie



President

Status: Offline
Posts: 7323
Date:
Permalink  
 

Scott Parkhurst wrote:

So, Chevy is launching an all new small block. It replaces the LS series and nothing swaps between them. A new era is here!So...here go..again!


  http://www.enginelabs.com/news/breaking-news-chevy-gen-v-small-block-reveal/



__________________

Mitch D.   River Falls, WI

Lifetime member of the "Cars apart Club"

1966 Chevelle SS 396 M20

1970 Chevelle SS 396 M20

1967 Camaro SS/RS 350 M20



Super Poster

Status: Offline
Posts: 596
Date:
Permalink  
 

Dang, just get the LS stuff working and I'm obsolete again. razz  Really surprised they stuck with a pushrod engine again, but it seems to work for them.  I just wish they wouldn't keep reusing the engine designations, hard enough to keep them straight, but reusing LT1 will make it more confusing .    



__________________

Steve S. - Fountain, MN

 

1972 Chevelle - 383 stroked LS1/4L60E - SOLD!



Founding Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2787
Date:
Permalink  
 

Obsolete before I even get my LS1 running. doh



__________________

Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN

69 Malibu Pro-Touring stroker LS1-383/T56 - 69 SS396-325/3spd project



2K+ Club

Status: Offline
Posts: 2444
Date:
Permalink  
 

Yes, reusing past engine designations is very confusing and frustrating. Is this the third LT engine series or the forth? I really thought they would go with the overhead cam and possibly a different fuel source this time.

So let see, it will take a couple years to get this into production, that’s if the government lets GM build it, then a few more years before they start becoming available in the second hand or hand-me-down market. Then a couple more years for the aftermarket parts manufactures to get their stuff ready and on the market.

That means AJ Kiefer will be installing one in the blue 69 we saw in the shop last weekend with a 10 speed automatic transmission to replace the three speed manual.



__________________

Kevin

Northwestern Ohio



Founding Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2787
Date:
Permalink  
 

I'm glad they're sticking with those "Rube Goldberg" pushrods... keeps the engine overall size easier to package into retrofits. nana



__________________

Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN

69 Malibu Pro-Touring stroker LS1-383/T56 - 69 SS396-325/3spd project



Active Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 306
Date:
Permalink  
 

That link didn't work for me but this one did.

http://www.enginelabs.com/engine/breaking-news-chevy-gen-v-small-block-reveal/

 



__________________

1964 Malibu Convert
"Nitrous is for guys who can't build motors"

www.worldracingleague.org 

www.facebook.com/wellsmafiaracing

 



Secretary

Status: Offline
Posts: 2940
Date:
Permalink  
 

I think they need to keep the pushrods because of the Variable Valve Timing. I know other manufacturers are doing it other ways and maybe GM is working on a different solution.

I'm just glad GM is using some sort of designation since otherwise people would be coming in to buy parts with the whole "They're all the same" thought again, and then I have to break the news to them that they need to figure out what they have.

__________________

Bryan-NW 'burbs
1972 Malibu
Vaguely stock appearing, and the opposite of restored.
1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



2K+ Club

Status: Offline
Posts: 2745
Date:
Permalink  
 

"Officials just announced no further research on LS series engines."

Wow, that supprises me that they are moving on from the LS engines so quick. I would guess only a few more model years before the LS engines are complete history in production vehicles then.



__________________

Chris - Ramsey, MN.

Dear Optimist, Pessimist, and Realist.

While you guys were busy arguing about the glass of water. I drank it!

Sincerly,

The opportunist.



Founding Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 2787
Date:
Permalink  
 

I wonder how the aftermarket will react?

They all kind of abandoned the Gen 2 after the Gen 3 stuff really took off.

__________________

Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN

69 Malibu Pro-Touring stroker LS1-383/T56 - 69 SS396-325/3spd project



Super Poster

Status: Offline
Posts: 596
Date:
Permalink  
 

With any luck it will drive down the prices on Gen 3 & 4 stuff.  I think maybe the Gen 2 stuff got abandoned quiker because they only had a 5 year run.  The Gen 3 & 4 stuff has been around in some capacity for 16 years.



__________________

Steve S. - Fountain, MN

 

1972 Chevelle - 383 stroked LS1/4L60E - SOLD!



Moderator

Status: Offline
Posts: 886
Date:
Permalink  
 

Dart has also announced a LS block with Gen I bottom end... Uses the Better breathing LS head but with the stronger Gen I bottom end... I only wish it was available in Aluminum and could accommodate a 4.25" stroke.

http://www.dragzine.com/news/dart-introduces-cast-iron-ls-cylinder-block-with-gen-i-bottom-end/

__________________
You can sleep in your car, But you cant drive your house


Secretary

Status: Offline
Posts: 2940
Date:
Permalink  
 

The LS engines have been in production trucks since mid '99, and the corvettes since '97. Not a bad run considering all the variations and the total amount of vehicles they have gone into.

If anything, GM stopping research will help the aftermarket since there won't be constant changes that will create even more versions that aren't interchangeable with what's out there. I'm waiting to see more about those Dart heads, that looks like it might be a new variation on the whole thing.

__________________

Bryan-NW 'burbs
1972 Malibu
Vaguely stock appearing, and the opposite of restored.
1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



Active Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 306
Date:
Permalink  
 

Tony Hoffer wrote:

Dart has also announced a LS block with Gen I bottom end... Uses the Better breathing LS head but with the stronger Gen I bottom end... I only wish it was available in Aluminum and could accommodate a 4.25" stroke.

http://www.dragzine.com/news/dart-introduces-cast-iron-ls-cylinder-block-with-gen-i-bottom-end/


 I think this has already been done before. I remember seeing (somewhere) a Gen 1 block cast with LS deck surface to accept LS heads and intake. It was different then the Dart version. It was all Gen 1 with just the deck and intake area LS shaped. Maybe World Products?



__________________

1964 Malibu Convert
"Nitrous is for guys who can't build motors"

www.worldracingleague.org 

www.facebook.com/wellsmafiaracing

 



Super Poster

Status: Offline
Posts: 596
Date:
Permalink  
 

I believe the bore spacing is different on the LS stuff vs Gen 1 as well .  I think they actually use small block F*rd plates to hone them.



__________________

Steve S. - Fountain, MN

 

1972 Chevelle - 383 stroked LS1/4L60E - SOLD!



2K+ Club

Status: Offline
Posts: 2745
Date:
Permalink  
 

Is it really going to be considered a "small block" if there isnt a big block to differentiate it from?



__________________

Chris - Ramsey, MN.

Dear Optimist, Pessimist, and Realist.

While you guys were busy arguing about the glass of water. I drank it!

Sincerly,

The opportunist.



Secretary

Status: Offline
Posts: 2940
Date:
Permalink  
 

The DART Gen I/III block:  http://www.dragzine.com/news/dart-introduces-cast-iron-ls-cylinder-block-with-gen-i-bottom-end/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=dart-introduces-cast-iron-ls-cylinder-block-with-gen-i-bottom-end

 



-- Edited by bowtie on Friday 2nd of November 2012 09:17:17 AM

__________________

Bryan-NW 'burbs
1972 Malibu
Vaguely stock appearing, and the opposite of restored.
1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more

Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Chatbox
Please log in to join the chat!