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Well, my work is.

One of the sales guys says his buddy got his number picked to get one of the 69 new COPO Camaros that will be built. Basically a stripped down non-street legal or VINable car. More info:

http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/Extras/sema2011/2012-copo-camaro-concept.jsp

Personally, I would rather have a ZL-1 since I could drive it around.



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Yep, looks like a LOT of money for a race only car. I'm with you. I'd need something I could drive on the street.

That boosted 5.3 looks interesting. That's the engine I have in my 2000 K1500. I can see the possibility of that getting installed in my '67 Camaro eventually...thumbsup



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Anyone that is fortunate to get thier number picked to get one of those cars would be wise to opt for the 427. Not just for the competitive aspect but its probably going to be the more desireable engine of the 69 cars. I wonder how many of these cars will end up sitting in garages because of the collectibility and rarity.



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I see one is for sale on Ebay

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They haven't even been built yet. Wow.

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1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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Here's a cut/paste of the official build sheet:

COPO CAMARO GENERAL INFORMATION:
NHRA horsepower ratings:
•327/4.0L supercharged– 550
•327/2.9L supercharged – 500
•427 Naturally aspirated – 425

NHRA shipping weights:
•327/4.0L – 3175 lbs
•327/2.9L – 3250 lbs
•427/N/A – 3195 lbs

• Recommended max engine RPM – 7500

CHASSIS:
•Chrome-moly cage – NHRA certified to 8.50 ET
•Subframes tied together
•Front engine cradle modified to accept additional oil pan clearance
•Rear subframe modified to accept unique COPO NHRA Stock Eliminator suspension

REAR SUSPENSION:
•4-bar with adjustable top links
•Adjustable panhard link
•Double-adjustable Strange Engineering coil over shocks
•Anti-roll bar

FRONT SUSPENSION:
•Adjustable Strange Engineering coil over struts
•Sway bar removed

STEERING:
•Production steering gear modified for manual (non-assist) operation

BRAKES:
•Light-weight vented rotors
•Billet 4-piston light-weight calipers
•Light-weight tandem master cylinder
•OEM pedal modified to mount master cylinder
•All components provided by Strange Engineering

WHEELS:
•Bogart Racing light-weight with unique COPO logo
•Forged outer ring
•Billet center
•15” x 10” rear – 5/8” studs
•15” x 3.5” front – 1/2” studs
• 4 – 3/4” bolt circle pattern

TIRES:
•Rear – 9” x 30” x 15” radial slick
•Front – 4.5” x 28” x 15” – drag-only

GEARS & AXLES:
•Strange Engineering 9” aluminum center section
•Light-weight steel spool
•Strange 9310 alloy 4.29 ring & pinion set
•Strange Engineering 35-spline axles
•Strange Engineering chrome-moly yoke

DRIVE SHAFT:
•4” OD x .125” wall 6061-T6 aluminum tube
•Chrome-moly end caps
•Forged chrome-moly slip yoke
•Heavy-duty 1350 universal joints

TRANSMISSION:
•ATI Racing Products “Pro Glide”
•SFI-approved ATI “Super Case”
•1.80 ratio 9310 straight cut gear set
•Precision balanced carrier with 4340 tool steel output shaft
•Turbo spline input shaft:
•327/4.0L – Vasco material
•327/2.9L and 427 – 300M material
•7 clutch high gear pack
•Billet clutch hub
•High flow front pump with heat-treated pinned stator tube
•Deep aluminum pan
•Hard Chrome Rings
•Fluid overflow catch can

TORQUE CONVETER:
•ATI Racing Products “Treemaster MRT” Series
•327/4.0L – 9” diameter housing
•Furnace brazed impeller and turbine fins
•Precision pump drive tube
•Heavy duty needle bearings
•22 element sprag with dual cage construction
•327/2.9L and 427 – 8” diameter housing
•Furnace brazed impeller and turbine fins
•Precision pump drive tube
•Heavy duty needle bearings
•Investment Cast Cover

SHIFTER:
•Hurst “Quarterstick” – 2-spd. automatic
•Forward pattern
•Built-in neutral safety switch
•Light-weight aluminum cover

327 ENGINE:
•Chevrolet Performance “LSX” cast iron block with steel main caps
•4.065” bore x 3.150” stroke
•Static compression ratio – 10:1 nominal
•Callies 4340 crankshaft – double-keyed snout
•Callies 4340 H-beam “Ultra” rods
•6.350” length
•.928” pin bore diameter
•Clevite H-Series heat-treated tri-metal rod & main bearings
•Mahle 2618 alloy forged domed pistons
•Graphal coating
•Hard-anodized top ring groove
•Friction-coated skirts
•Mahle .043” x .043” x 3mm piston rings
•Ductile iron top with radius molybdenum face
•Plain cast iron tapered 2nd
•Chrome-plated oil rails with low-tension expander
•Comp Cams steel billet hydraulic roller camshaft
•Duration – 246°/254° @ .050” lift
•Theoretical valve lift – .630”/.630”
•Lobe centers – 117°

Valvetrain:
•Chevrolet Performance “Ceramic Ball” high-RPM hydraulic roller tappets
•3/8” diameter LS7 pushrods
•1.8:1 ratio LS7 rocker arms with roller trunions
•PSI “Max Life” beehive valve springs
•Hardened steel spring seats
•Light-weight steel retainers
•Fully CNC’ed aluminum cylinder heads – based on LS7
•275 cc nominal intake port volume
•89 cc nominal exhaust port volume
•70 cc nominal combustion chamber volume
•Del West titanium intake valves – 2.200” head diameter x 7mm stem
•Light-weight sodium-filled exhaust valves – 1.610” head diameter x 7mm stem
•Fel-Pro Performance multi-layer steel head gaskets with raised cylinder sealing bead
•Internal wet sump oil pump
•Deep-sump cast aluminum oil pan – 6 quart capacity
•ATI Performance Products SFI-approved damper – 10-rib shell
•Whipple twin-screw supercharger
•327/550 – 4.0L
•327.500 – 2.9L
•Whipple billet throttle body
•327/550 – 172mm oval blade
•327/500 – 109mm round blade

427 ENGINE:
•Chevrolet Performance LS7 aluminum block
•4.125” bore x 4.00” stroke
•Static compression ratio – 13:1 nominal
•Callies 5140 crankshaft
•Callies 4340 H-beam rods
•6.100” length
•.928” pin bore diameter
•Clevite H-Series heat-treated tri-metal rod & main bearings
•Mahle 2618 alloy forged domed pistons
•Graphal coating
•Hard-anodized top ring groove
•Friction-coated skirts
•Mahle .043” x .043” x 3mm piston rings
•Ductile iron top with radius molybdenum face
•Plain cast iron tapered 2nd
•Chrome-plated oil rails with low-tension expander
•Chevrolet Performance steel billet hydraulic roller camshaft
•Duration – 233°/276° @ .050” lift
•Theoretical valve lift – .630”/.630”
•Lobe centers – 107°

Valvetrain:
•Chevrolet Performance “Ceramic Ball” high-RPM hydraulic roller tappets
•3/8” diameter LS7 pushrods
•1.8:1 ratio LS7 rocker arms with roller trunions
•PSI “Max Life” beehive valve springs
•Hardened steel spring seats
•Light-weight steel retainers
•Fully CNC’ed aluminum cylinder heads – based on LS7
•275 cc nominal intake port volume
•89 cc nominal exhaust port volume
• 70 cc nominal combustion chamber volume
•Del West titanium intake valves – 2.200” head diameter x 7mm stem
•Light-weight sodium-filled exhaust valves – 1.610” head diameter x 7mm stem
•Fel-Pro Performance multi-layer steel head gaskets with raised cylinder sealing bead
•Internal wet sump oil pump
•Deep-sump cast aluminum oil pan – 6 quart capacity
•ATI Performance Products SFI-approved damper
•Meziere billet electric water pump
•Chevrolet Performance/Holley “Hi Ram” intake manifold
•Whipple billet throttle body – 102mm blade

FUEL SYSTEM:
•Aeromotive “Eliminator” fuel pump – free flow rating = 800 lb/hr
•Aeromotive A1000 pressure regulator with manifold pressure compensation capability
•Aeromotive 10-micron high-flow filter
•Light-weight black nylon braided -8 AN hoses
•Black anodized aluminum -8 AN hose ends and fittings
•High-impedance fuel injectors
•327/550 – 105 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi with EV1 connector
•327/500 – 80 lb/hr @ 43.5 psi with EV1 connector
•427/425 – 42 lb/hr @ 58 psi with EV6 / USCAR connector

ENGINE CONROLS & IGNITION:
•Delco MEFI 5A electronic fuel injection processor
•Speed density operation
•Interfacing software & hardware available in the aftermarket
•Cable-actuated throttle
•Production LS7 ignition coils
•Production LS7 secondary wires
•GM sensors

ELECTRICAL:
•Dash-installed control switches:
•Starter
•Ignition
•Fuel pump
•Cooling fan
•Intercooler pump/water pump, depending on engine package

GAUGES:
•Autometer with gold “Bowtie” logo on dials:
•5” 10K RPM tach with shift light
•Electronic water temp with 2 1/16” face and 100°-260°F range
•Electronic trans temp with 2 1/16” face and 100°-260°F range
•Electronic oil pressure with 2 1/16” face and 0-100 psi range
•Electronic fuel pressure with 2 1/16” face and 0-100 psi range
•Voltmeter with 2 1/16” face and 8-18v range

SAFETY:
•RJS Safety Equipment 3” driver restraints
•RJS Safety Equipment window net



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1972 Malibu
Vaguely stock appearing, and the opposite of restored.
1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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They are probably all spoken for now but you should have put your name in and used your employee discount.razz



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yeah........... don't think that really applies. It would be cool to own, but I think I would want more from the engine than what it shows.

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1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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Building has begun!

http://theblock.com/news/spoiler-alert-inside-look-copo-camaro-assembly



-- Edited by bowtie on Monday 18th of June 2012 07:20:42 PM

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1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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There is a thread that ran on TC of a dealer somewhere that has already wrecked one. Seems a salesman took one out the very first day it arrived and did some significant damage to it but didnt total it IIRC. Since these cars are already pretty much pre-sold. The new owner has since refused the car and the dealer is reported to be planning to fix it and re-sell it at full price, plus the market for the BS "market adjustment". That one got a lot of people riled up, and for good reason IMO.





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While you guys were busy arguing about the glass of water. I drank it!

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That was a ZL1 if I remember. The COPOs are all still being built.

We did get in a looonnnnngggggggg triple axle enclosed 2 car trailer today, but it turned out to be a '40s hot rod coming into town for the B2da'50s show this weekend.

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Vaguely stock appearing, and the opposite of restored.
1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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Come to think of it. It was a ZL1. For some reason I had it in my head that these were the same cars.



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I'd actually pass on the ZL1 and get a new 1LE. Most of the same suspension, short of the fancy shocks.

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1972 Malibu
Vaguely stock appearing, and the opposite of restored.
1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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Has there been any rumors of a Z/28 coming back? Seems like a big piece of Camaro history missing from the current lineup...

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Derek69SS wrote:

Has there been any rumors of a Z/28 coming back? Seems like a big piece of Camaro history missing from the current lineup...


 There have been so called stealth pics of it on road tests but it could've been a ZL1 too.

Camaro5.com has all the latest news or rumors....razz

I agree, they NEED to bring back the Z28 option. 1LE is third gen and newer stuff and not nearly as identifiable to car nuts as a Z28 emblem. They styled the body after a '69, where is the most iconic model ???



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I can think of at least 5 club members that own Mustangs..6 if you include my recent return to the darkside.  laughing I now have the Ford version of Gearlube's daily driver.



-- Edited by OscarZ on Wednesday 20th of June 2012 12:23:53 PM

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No real word yet that I know.

What I can say, though, is that there are already more new model "Z28s" out there than the factory built, so it's just like the old ones. Shops have built them for SEMA and the display car circuit. Also have seen some Firebirds, GTO's and even a couple 2nd gen recreations too. They don't look half-bad (but the other half.......)

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1972 Malibu
Vaguely stock appearing, and the opposite of restored.
1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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Oh yeah, we have a '46 Chev custom on the show floor this week.

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1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more



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Those Government Motors boys will do almost anything with that Camaro to try to keep up with that Ford Mustang.

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Who let this Mustang owner in here? razz

One thing I think Ford really did right is all the different "special edition" models of the Mustang. A different stripe, paint color, and hood is all they needed to add a lot of variety to the lineup.



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Bonnie ordered a 2013, V6, picked it over the bowtie. Anxious to see it.

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So far I really like my 2012 V6.  Getting an average of 28 MPG commuting to Mpls. and back on the current tank too!  Quite a few appearance differences between the 2012/2013 but they drove the same when Shannan and I test drove one of each year.  Shannan preferred the looks of the 2013.  I preferred the looks of the 2012 but liked them both.  The special offer of the closeout 2012's won out over ordering a new 2013.  There are a few options I would have liked to add by ordering one but they were willing to deal more on the one I ended up getting.  Bonnie will love it!   



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Jesus, what the heck is with you guys? Mustangs? Seriously?laughingrazz

I kid, I kid. I like the scowling angry look of the Camaro and Challenger personally. But they certainly all look like a nicer alternative then some of the imports out there. Its just nice to see cars like these being made by american car makers again.



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Since SEMA is here, and there are pictures of the last 2012 COPO Camaro out there, I thought I would update everyone on some of the production stats released:

Along with the debut of the 2012 COPO Camaro Convertible #69, the new COPO Camaro build book and the announcement of 69 more COPO Camaro race cars coming in 2012

- GM has offered up a list of facts pertaining to the 2012 COPO Camaro race cars:

-Out of the 69 Camaro factory drag cars built this year, 67 were coupes and 2 were convertibles.

-43 examples were fitted with the naturally aspirated 427 cubic inch big block V8 (including the original 2011 SEMA Show concept car) while 20 were powered by the 327 cubic inch small block and the 4.0L supercharger and the other 6 were fitted with the 327 and the 2.9L supercharger.

-8 buyers of the 2012 COPO Camaro opted for the collector’s package which included all three available engine options

-32 2012 COPO Camaros were painted Summit White (including the original concept car), 20 were black, 12 were Victory Red, 2 were Ashen Grey Metallic, 2 were Silver Ice Metallic and 1 was Inferno Orange Metallic.

-12 COPO Camaros sold in 2012 were ordered without any of the factory COPO graphics.

-There will be another run of 2013 COPOs being made, including a convertible option. I already know that you will soon be able to order the 1LE suspension kit (stab bars, shocks/struts, hubs, links) as well as the 3.91 gears separate. Also available soon will be separate kits for the ZL1 Brembo front (14.6" with 6 piston calipers) or rear brakes (14.4" with 4 piston calipers) and the beefy 9.9" rear end with shafts, etc. Add that to the body in white already available and you could build the best of all worlds track car.

SOURCE and pics of #69:
http://www.torquenews.com/106/2012-copo-camaro-convertible-debuts-sema-69-more-coming-2013?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+torquenews%2Fazao+%28TorqueNews%29

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1999 std bore 5.7, Vortec heads, Holley Stealth Ram, GM cam
700R4, Viking coilovers, 12 bolt 4.10 posi, and a whole bunch more

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