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I can't find my list of bell housing numbers that will accommodate an 11" clutch. I am making a list of things I'd like to do to my Camaro this winter and realized i used the bell housing i had in the Chevelle. I need another one and there are a couple alternatives to the expensive 621.

 



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Here's some casting numbers I have for the 11" clutch.

3899621

464697

3872444

3843942

3866983

These next two I beleive are for a truck and will require a spacer ring because of the larger bearing retainer hole.

6263756

460486

I make no guarantees as to any of this info. :)

 



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Thanks, Steve. I eventually came up with the first three but I didn't know about the last 2 for 11". Wish I had known about the spacer before I gave away the truck bell with the larger hole that came in my '66 when I replaced it with the 697 I had.



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almost positive the bellhousings are discontinued, but some forks and clutch balls are still available from GM. FYI

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bowtie wrote:

almost positive the bellhousings are discontinued, but some forks and clutch balls are still available from GM. FYI


Been reading about the repro ones. Seems there may be 2 on the market now; the keisler HD and an exact copy with just aluminum material. Very tempting to buy new at about the same cost as a "vintage" used with possible problems.

 



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bowtie wrote:

almost positive the bellhousings are discontinued, but some forks and clutch balls are still available from GM. FYI


Confirmed on the clutch ball.  Two years ago I walked into Grossman Chev in Burnsville, told them what I needed, he went to the shelf and I bought it.  I wished they were still around...



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Lost in the 60s wrote:
bowtie wrote:

almost positive the bellhousings are discontinued, but some forks and clutch balls are still available from GM. FYI


Been reading about the repro ones. Seems there may be 2 on the market now; the keisler HD and an exact copy with just aluminum material. Very tempting to buy new at about the same cost as a "vintage" used with possible problems.

 

Thought  I read somewhere the Keister was a special titanium/ aluminum alloy and therefore stronger.

 


 



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Mitch might need the stronger Keister if he keeps binging home new projects! laughing
jim larson wrote:

Lost in the 60s wrote:
bowtie wrote:

almost positive the bellhousings are discontinued, but some forks and clutch balls are still available from GM. FYI


Been reading about the repro ones. Seems there may be 2 on the market now; the keisler HD and an exact copy with just aluminum material. Very tempting to buy new at about the same cost as a "vintage" used with possible problems.

 

Thought  I read somewhere the Keister was a special titanium/ aluminum alloy and therefore stronger.

 


 


 



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I know there are two repops of the 621 bell. One version is an exact copy with the casting number and the other doesn't have a casting number and is made a little thicker and stronger, it's also a little heavier.  Don't know who makes either one.



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My wife is agreeing with you, Mike...Imgonna

 

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Mitch might need the stronger Keister if he keeps binging home new projects! laughing 

 

Thought  I read somewhere the Keister was a special titanium/ aluminum alloy and therefore stronger.

 



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Bungy L-76 wrote:

I know there are two repops of the 621 bell. One version is an exact copy with the casting number and the other doesn't have a casting number and is made a little thicker and stronger, it's also a little heavier.  Don't know who makes either one.


Keisler makes the heavier one with the titanium alloy. As Mike refers to above, I would look for that one for more protection from impact...thumbsup

 

 



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What about a steel blowproof "Lakewood" style bell? These are pretty plentifull and you can usually find one at a swap pretty cheap. Also keeps you from getting a "Garlits" foot. razz



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SShink wrote:
bowtie wrote:

almost positive the bellhousings are discontinued, but some forks and clutch balls are still available from GM. FYI


Confirmed on the clutch ball.  Two years ago I walked into Grossman Chev in Burnsville, told them what I needed, he went to the shelf and I bought it.  I wished they were still around...


 I have one of the 2 pivot balls and typically have a fork, at least those are for a 66 w/BBC. I might just even still have a GM Perf clutch on the shelf too.... would have to check the number vs the size.



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I got a clutch fork for mine a couple of years ago (#3892632) Had to search around but found one at the Chevy dealership on the corner of 35 and 494. At the time, there were only a handfull of dealerships in the state that had one.



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Bungy L-76 wrote:

What about a steel blowproof "Lakewood" style bell? These are pretty plentifull and you can usually find one at a swap pretty cheap. Also keeps you from getting a "Garlits" foot. razz


I've read a number of stories about the older steel bells needing offset dowel pins to center the shaft/collar correctly and don't want to get involved with all that. The reviews on the new Keislers is very good with their claim of .003 runout being accurate.

I had a disc partially explode in my '70 Chevelle in the mid 70's at Northstar dragstrip. It nearly cut the aluminum bell in half and a piece punctured the floor under the throttle pedal. I managed to drive it home to Anoka at slow speed on backroads. Wish I still had the disc and bell for "garage art"...cool

Bryan, any chance you could bring a Keilser in thru the dealership at an attractive price ?

 



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Did you just use dealership and fair price together???

Sorry, can't get it through here but if I could you know I would hook you up.

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FYI: fork #3892632, pivot ball #3887177, p.ball#3729000, and p.ball#3866568 are all still available and either on hand or 1 day out.

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bowtie wrote:

FYI: fork #3892632, pivot ball #3887177, p.ball#3729000, and p.ball#3866568 are all still available and either on hand or 1 day out.


 Thanks for posting the part numbers I need to get a fork and ball. I appreciate it



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No prob. One of the balls is fork, the other is pivot arm, I forget what the third was. I had the fork and 2 of the 3 balls on hand.

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You might have been here already?

http://paceperformance.com/i-5146522-omw621-reproduction-621-chevy-small-block-big-block-11-clutch-manual-transmission-bellhousing-for-use-with-car-3-4-speeds-muncie-saginaw-borg-warner-richmond-transmissions.html 



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67ss wrote:

You might have been here already?

http://paceperformance.com/i-5146522-omw621-reproduction-621-chevy-small-block-big-block-11-clutch-manual-transmission-bellhousing-for-use-with-car-3-4-speeds-muncie-saginaw-borg-warner-richmond-transmissions.html 


Yep, I did a search and they came up Chris, but thanks. They are the highest price I've seen tho...doh

 



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Just made a deal to buy a 10.5 bell on craigslist along with a flywheel for the Camaro and NEW Comp Plus shifter kit complete for the Chevelle...nana



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