Discussion Forum - Northstar Chevelle Club

SShink · 3K+ Club

'Cars Apart Club' Definition Post

Dave Seitz · Mega Poster

Any car that is not drivable for the summer months shall be deemed "Cars Apart"
This will include any vehical that breaks at the track or on the street during the summer months.

Example: Member X at BIR missed shift caused multiple rod and crank failure along with block and head damage.
Member X is a member of "Blown Engine Club" aka BEC and Broken Car Club" aka BCC not yet a member of "Cars Apart Club" aka CAC
Member X removes engine he will now be a member of "Cars Apart Club" along with his memberships in BEC & BCC
Member X now obtains new parts and is waiting ordered parts and on machine shop to perform services on said parts. This is now under the "Done Before Summer Ends Club" aka DBSEC additionally member will now be a member YOU SAID 1 WEEK 3 WEEKS AGO! club. also known as THEY FREAKIN LIED TO ME! Club.

-- Edited by Dave Seitz on Thursday 6th of January 2011 08:28:57 PM

dashboard · 2K+ Club

So when I had my transmission out, I was in, when I got the transmission back in, I was out?

Should time be a factor here? If I remove a tire I can't drive the car. If I remove the the rear end? Derek makes a good point. If no parts are lost or broken and it can be quickly be put back together....but then there's that time thing again

John D · 2K+ Club

I would think that after 10 days of a failure or dismantling if it's not together again and legally "cruisable" you'd be in the B.C.C.

A month would put you in the C.A.C.

Considering the talent pool we have in the Club, there isn't anything (other than funds, or an instant membership in the B.E.C./B.Trans.C.) we couldn't fix in a week. Heck, we did a body/frame swap at Karl's in 1-1/2 hours....

There may need to be an extension made for outside vendor specialty work, such as machine shop services.

Chris R · 2K+ Club

My car has sat since 2005 and I havent taken a single part off it until I have the funds for it. I dont consider my self apart of the cars apart club.

SShink · 3K+ Club

Chris R wrote:

My car has sat since 2005 and I havent taken a single part off it until I have the funds for it. I dont consider my self apart of the cars apart club.

I think that would fall under the Cars Not Being Driven Club aka CNBDC. biggrin

Lost in the 60s · President

Chris R wrote:
My car has sat since 2005 and I havent taken a single part off it until I have the funds for it. I dont consider my self apart of the cars apart club.

You're in the "I'm afraid to start" club or IFART for short. Translates to "chit or get off the pot......

Seriously, if it's not broken or unsafe, why not drive it some each year ?

Dave's definition has too many classifications for me to remember. I vote for 2 classes. If it's not safe to drive but not apart, it's in the Broken Down Club...BDC and if it's taken apart to any extent that renders it unsafe/undrivable for more than a week, it's in CAC.

Derek69SS · Founding Member

All I know is that I can't wait to be kicked out!

Lost in the 60s · President

Derek69SS wrote:
All I know is that I can't wait to be kicked out!

NO ONE gets "kicked out" of BDC or CAC. You have to earn your graduation by completing the course and actually driving the vehicle again....
I can already see numerous occasions to get together and "celebrate" a graduation...

SShink · 3K+ Club

Lost in the 60s wrote:

Derek69SS wrote:
All I know is that I can't wait to be kicked out!
I can already see numerous occasions to get together and "celebrate" a graduation...

Here are just the one's I'm thinking of in the CAC right now:

Stan
Kevin
Derek
Craig S.
John D. (eeking his way out of the club soon though)
Loren
Jim L.
Andy
Dave S.
Mitch (multiple cars) biggrin

About the only ones I know that's out of it are Tony, Jon, Chris R., and Dan W.!

I'm sure there are others in both clubs (Cars Apart and Cars Not Apart) not listed above...

That darn counter at the top of the page is losing days WAY too fast!!!

Tony Hoffer · Moderator

Ive got starter issues to sort out. a starter to replace, front springs and a drivers side spindle to replace as well... waiting to get the sled back together and some racking put in then Mine will be apart and probably off the street for a few years after.

SteveS · Super Poster

Add me to the list, been 2 years since the Chevelle has seen the road. Problem is my bank account is going to the same direction as that counter, except a lot faster.

Dan Williams · Active Member

SShink wrote:

Lost in the 60s wrote:

Derek69SS wrote:
All I know is that I can't wait to be kicked out!
I can already see numerous occasions to get together and "celebrate" a graduation...

Here are just the one's I'm thinking of in the CAC right now:

Stan
Kevin
Derek
Craig S.
John D. (eeking his way out of the club soon though)
Loren
Jim L.
Andy
Dave S.
Mitch (multiple cars)
About the only ones I know that's out of it are Tony, Jon, Chris R., and Dan W.!
I'm sure there are others in both clubs (Cars Apart and Cars Not Apart) not listed above...
That darn counter at the top of the page is losing days WAY too fast!!!

Not so fast, my 71 has a few issues and hasn't been on the street for a year or two. Hopefully someday this winter I will get the 12 bolt out and repaired. Pretty close besides little stuff.

Chris R · 2K+ Club

SteveS wrote:

Add me to the list, been 2 years since the Chevelle has seen the road. Problem is my bank account is going to the same direction as that counter, except a lot faster.

Exactly. Im not about to pull apart a car and run out of money half way through and have the car immobilized. The garage I use is not even close to a suitable and comfortable work space to begin with.

Besides, I enjoyed my time in the CAP club in 1998-1999. I wish I had a scanner to upload the thick stack of 35mm pictures I have. Digital photography was still a few years off just yet.

Chris R · 2K+ Club

Chris R wrote:
My car has sat since 2005 and I havent taken a single part off it until I have the funds for it. I dont consider my self apart of the cars apart club.
Lost in the 60s wrote:

You're in the "I'm afraid to start" club or IFART for short. Translates to "chit or get off the pot......

That sounds good. Can I have some money? Hey, it never hurts to ask.

Lost in the 60s wrote:

Seriously, if it's not broken or unsafe, why not drive it some each year ?

Its not quite broken yet. Almost, if I continue to drive it. It will be. Fixing broken stuff costs more money.

Dave Seitz · Mega Poster

I hope this was not supposed to be a serious post as it is just to funny.
I hear Cindy is no longer a member of CAC, she has moved to the afraid to drive it in a little snow and salt club.
We need to shake Tim H. down for details of how his nerves are after jamming on these cars with his Buff & Shine specials. Have not heard him on the board later either.

Lost in the 60s · President

Chris R wrote:
Lost in the 60s wrote:

You're in the "I'm afraid to start" club or IFART for short. Translates to "chit or get off the pot......

That sounds good. Can I have some money? Hey, it never hurts to ask.

I finance my winter projects with plastic and then work all summer to pay them off. It's a visious cycle but I get to have fun during the winter months instead of sit twiddling my thumbs and wishing I had money.

Until 3 years ago, I drove over-the-road in all this crap weather and was gone from home most of 4 months. I have a very easy going wife who understands I've paid my dues and deserve a little break. I just need to win a big lottery so I can permanently retire and just play with my multiple CAC collection....

bowtie · Secretary

don't forget: i have a club card too.

67SS is in the afraid to drive it more club, his supercharger is going to shred itself pretty soon I guess.

67ss · 1K+ Club

Ok so I don't have a car apart but can I be in the riding lawn mower apart club? I need to get it back together before spring. I have been doing some welding and fabricating on it and have pieces off being powder coated.

Lost in the 60s · President

67ss wrote:

Ok so I don't have a car apart but can I be in the riding lawn mower apart club? I need to get it back together before spring. I have been doing some welding and fabricating on it and have pieces off being powder coated.

Are you building a pulling tractor ??? Why powder coat lawn mower parts... confuse

I guess you can be the number 1 club member of the RLMAC. I don't foresee many others joining soon.... hmm

Chris R · 2K+ Club

Lost in the 60s wrote:

Chris R wrote:
Lost in the 60s wrote:

You're in the "I'm afraid to start" club or IFART for short. Translates to "chit or get off the pot......

That sounds good. Can I have some money? Hey, it never hurts to ask.

I finance my winter projects with plastic and then work all summer to pay them off. It's a visious cycle but I get to have fun during the winter months instead of sit twiddling my thumbs and wishing I had money.

Until 3 years ago, I drove over-the-road in all this crap weather and was gone from home most of 4 months. I have a very easy going wife who understands I've paid my dues and deserve a little break. I just need to win a big lottery so I can permanently retire and just play with my multiple CAC collection....

Ah yes. The viscous circle of building up credit cards and taking the rest of the year to pay them off and do it all over again. Been there done that, have 1000s in reciepts. I know all too well how that goes. Had 30K invested in this car by late 1999-2000ish. No way I had that kind of coin laying around but Visa sure came in handy to keep things moving.

Money now is a moot point for me anyways. The garage is full of way too much stuff, I am a full time student and the rest of my free time is spent either working or doing homework which leaves very little car time. Garage isnt heated anyways.

This time around I have much bigger plans for the 66. I like to call the cars apart club the CAP club. Cars-A-Part club.

Tony Hoffer · Moderator

Lost in the 60s wrote:

67ss wrote:

Ok so I don't have a car apart but can I be in the riding lawn mower apart club? I need to get it back together before spring. I have been doing some welding and fabricating on it and have pieces off being powder coated.

Are you building a pulling tractor ??? Why powder coat lawn mower parts...
I guess you can be the number 1 club member of the RLMAC. I don't foresee many others joining soon....

Hey.. Im part of the VSAC.. Vintage Snowmobile is Apart Club..

6 to be exact..LOL... Just blasting and painting though.. The only thing Ive had powdercoated was my rare original 72 Brut muffler .. they were recalled by the EPA... Had mine ceramic coated to keep it from rotting..

Dave Seitz · Mega Poster

I was a member of that until I traded both of my mowers in last year on a new one. Still have the Vac unit I was building for the one that hadn't been finished.

67ss · 1K+ Club

Lets just say I am doing a little restoration on my lawn mower. It was built in the late 70's or early 80's and it is a tank. The new mowers you buy are cheap tin compared to this thing. I plan on keeping this thing around for a long time, so spending a couple extra bucks for powder coating to make it last is well worth it.

frank · Active Member

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/rvs/2090854166.html

tony check this out

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Chris R wrote:
My car has sat since 2005 and I havent taken a single part off it until I have the funds for it. I dont consider my self apart of the cars apart club.
Its not quite broken yet. Almost, if I continue to drive it. It will be. Fixing broken stuff costs more money.
Sorry Chris, you can't be in the cars apart club. If a car has not been seen by club members for an extended time the member must provide proof that they in fact have a car.

If Chevelle or El Camino ownership can be established and the car is not dismantled then that member is in the Cars in Storage Club CSC. There is nothing wrong with being in the CSC, I was there for almost 20 years.
If you have lots of old 35mm prints do a Google search for photo scanning. There are some shops out there that scan photos and slides at a very high DPI rate, it's fairly inexpensive. I had 500 slides done by Scan Cafe in CA. 1-866-745-0392 for about $90.00 shipping included. I sent the slides to them, I think they sent them to some little kid in India and I had them back in about 30 days.

SShink · 3K+ Club

frank wrote:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/rvs/2090854166.html

tony check this out

Frank, I think you just sent Tony to vintage sled heaven! biggrin

bowtie · Secretary

Member of GRIMACE

Garage
Room
Is
My
Apart
Club
Environment

Tony Hoffer · Moderator

That is some cool stuff there...The autoboggans might be interesting... but the Bruts are way more advanced....If I were ever to get anything really old .. considered "antique" not vintage..
it would be a phase II Eliason motor toboggan..

http://www.eliason-snowmobile.com

-- Edited by Tony Hoffer on Saturday 8th of January 2011 06:57:04 PM

SShink · 3K+ Club

Tony Hoffer wrote:

That is some cool stuff there...The autoboggans might be interesting... but the Bruts are way more advanced....If I were ever to get anything really old .. considered "antique" not vintage..
it would be a phase II Eliason motor toboggan..

http://www.eliason-snowmobile.com
-- Edited by Tony Hoffer on Saturday 8th of January 2011 06:57:04 PM

It looks like at least the guy in front of the pic will stay warm in the right places by straddling the engine! biggrin

Or is it just a toboggan?

-- Edited by SShink on Sunday 9th of January 2011 09:46:21 AM

John D · 2K+ Club

So, other than de-bugging, the parking brake cable, and shake-down runs, the "Black Beastie" is back together, and it runs. (I have witnesses biggrin

)

So am I out of "C.A.C." and into the "B.D.C." (Broken Down Club)??

SShink · 3K+ Club

John D wrote:

So, other than de-bugging, the parking brake cable, and shake-down runs, the "Black Beastie" is back together, and it runs. (I have witnesses )

So am I out of "C.A.C." and into the "B.D.C." (Broken Down Club)??

Not yet John... I saw that the hood is still in the bed of the Elky. That's still CAC to me! LOL biggrin

Lost in the 60s · President

SShink wrote:

John D wrote:
So, other than de-bugging, the parking brake cable, and shake-down runs, the "Black Beastie" is back together, and it runs. (I have witnesses )

So am I out of "C.A.C." and into the "B.D.C." (Broken Down Club)??
Not yet John... I saw that the hood is still in the bed of the Elky. That's still CAC to me! LOL

Hmmmmmmm no hood doesn't make the vehicle "unstreetable" so I'm torn here.
It doesn't really fit into either CAC or BDC, since it is't "broken" or apart anymore. Don't want to get too complicated with multiple catagories but it brings up the need for a "waiting for Spring test and tune" catagory. I guees if John's OK with BDC for now, I can agree with that.

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Not so fast O great gadget man. Blackly remains in the CAC until after it completes it's first test drive on a public byway. Additionally it must demonstrate two important functions. Be capable of accelerating to and maintaining the posted speed on a interstate highway. Out in the country side where the speeds are 70 mph and traffic goes that fast or faster, not where Stan drives his commute at 5-10 mph. Second, it must be able to stop itself so quickly that the beer cans come out from under the front seat.

So your still in the club till after the test drive buddy, may as well start on something else.

Here’s a by the way thought. Can a member simply say, I’m leaving or I am no longer in the CAC? Being allowed to do so could lead to total anarchy. I suggest a member of said club must be voted out by the other current members of the CAC.

Lost in the 60s · President

dashboard wrote:

Not so fast O great gadget man. Blackly remains in the CAC until after it completes it's first test drive on a public byway. Additionally it must demonstrate two important functions. Be capable of accelerating to and maintaining the posted speed on a interstate highway. Out in the country side where the speeds are 70 mph and traffic goes that fast or faster, not where Stan drives his commute at 5-10 mph. Second, it must be able to stop itself so quickly that the beer cans come out from under the front seat.

So your still in the club till after the test drive buddy, may as well start on something else.

Here’s a by the way thought. Can a member simply say, I’m leaving or I am no longer in the CAC? Being allowed to do so could lead to total anarchy. I suggest a member of said club must be voted out by the other current members of the CAC.

Ah, yes, I mentioned something to that extent earlier.

"You have to earn your graduation by completing the course and actually driving the vehicle again.... biggrin

"

I suppose he could move to BDC, like he wants, but it's really the same thing.....he's "IN" until graduation...

That trailer trip to OK looking better now, John ???

Chris R · 2K+ Club

dashboard wrote:

Chris R wrote:
My car has sat since 2005 and I havent taken a single part off it until I have the funds for it. I dont consider my self apart of the cars apart club.
Its not quite broken yet. Almost, if I continue to drive it. It will be. Fixing broken stuff costs more money.
Sorry Chris, you can't be in the cars apart club. If a car has not been seen by club members for an extended time the member must provide proof that they in fact have a car.

If Chevelle or El Camino ownership can be established and the car is not dismantled then that member is in the Cars in Storage Club CSC. There is nothing wrong with being in the CSC, I was there for almost 20 years.
If you have lots of old 35mm prints do a Google search for photo scanning. There are some shops out there that scan photos and slides at a very high DPI rate, it's fairly inexpensive. I had 500 slides done by Scan Cafe in CA. 1-866-745-0392 for about $90.00 shipping included. I sent the slides to them, I think they sent them to some little kid in India and I had them back in about 30 days.

Oh I can prove it. I have plenty of witnesses in the club whom I enjoyed driving it to event and event and show after show, prior to 2005 when I had enough and decided to park it. Problem was, I had too much fun driving it and doing my best to work on it at the same time. That thinking finally caught up with me and I had enough so I parked it. Oh, I was in a past newsletter too. Lead photo taken at Car Craft 2004. I think it was 2004.

http://www.northstarchevelles.com/NonSecure/NewsLetters/October-2004.pdf

When an oil filter literally falls off the vehicle after a meeting at Corvette specialties and you consume 6 quarts of oil on a cruise through red wing and back later that year. Both outer seat belt mounts in the floor pan are rusted out so the car never had the belts (which I have a set for) installed on the car= safety problem. With enough little things that I wished were working. It was finally time to sit back and think about really digging in and fixing the troublesome problems that really take the fun out of driving the car.

Chris R · 2K+ Club

My thought on this whole thing is that the cars apart club consists of having any part off the car that renders the car un drivable. You can still drive a car with the hood off and its legal to drive without the hood off in Minnesota so I wouldnt count that personally. Anything from doing a simple brake job in an afternoon to a full blown frame off qualifies. Even if your only part of the CaP (it will catch on biggrin

) club for one afternoon or the next 3 years.

John D · 2K+ Club

I am running "Blizzaks" on it...... hmmmmm.

Lost in the 60s · President

John D wrote:
I am running "Blizzaks" on it...... hmmmmm.

Oh oh, John wants out of CAC badly and is willing to risk a little salt to accomplish it....
A day like today when it's too danged cold for anything to melt and the roads are relatively dry would be good.
Maybe he's already done the "deed"...

Tony Hoffer · Moderator

I never have money at the right time..

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Bungy L-76 · Active Member

I think this qualifys me.

-- Edited by Bungy L-76 on Monday 10th of January 2011 05:35:04 PM

-- Edited by Bungy L-76 on Monday 10th of January 2011 05:35:20 PM

Lost in the 60s · President

Bungy L-76 wrote:

I think this qualifys me.

You be right there with us, brother.....
Tell me you're gonna repaint the brake master/booster and ps pump some other color....

SShink · 3K+ Club

Bungy L-76 wrote:

I think this qualifys me.

-- Edited by Bungy L-76 on Monday 10th of January 2011 05:35:04 PM

-- Edited by Bungy L-76 on Monday 10th of January 2011 05:35:20 PM

Another Chevelle with no front end! I don't think I can remember a time where so many people had their front end's off!!! confuse

Lost in the 60s · President

SShink wrote:

Bungy L-76 wrote:

I think this qualifys me.

-- Edited by Bungy L-76 on Monday 10th of January 2011 05:35:04 PM

-- Edited by Bungy L-76 on Monday 10th of January 2011 05:35:20 PM

Another Chevelle with no front end! I don't think I can remember a time where so many people had their front end's off!!!

Does kinda seem like an epidemic lately.
You SURE you don't want a demo team to come rip yours off Saturday .... It would be a LOT easier to clean and paint the frame, firewall and suspension...

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Bungy L-76 wrote:

I think this qualifys me.

I would say so, your in till further notice.

Bungy L-76 · Active Member

You be right there with us, brother.....
Tell me you're gonna repaint the brake master/booster and ps pump some other color....

That's already been done.

Lost in the 60s · President

Bungy L-76 wrote:

You be right there with us, brother.....
Tell me you're gonna repaint the brake master/booster and ps pump some other color....
That's already been done.

Thank You !! as long as it isn't Fuschia or some such color....

OscarZ · Treasurer

dashboard wrote:

If Chevelle or El Camino ownership can be established and the car is not dismantled then that member is in the Cars in Storage Club CSC. There is nothing wrong with being in the CSC, I was there for almost 20 years.

I've been in the CSC for 10 years? Maybe I should be looking for a sponsor and a 10 year pin! confuse

Chris R · 2K+ Club

Im fine with being a part of the CSC or shouldnt it be CIS club for Cars-In-Storage? At least then I can move the thing when I need to. It would only take me a few hours to get it running again anyways. Its really only long term storage at this point. The same type of thing you typically do to a car thats been sitting for years.

I dont even have enough places to put all the parts if I take apart the car anyways. Let alone risking loosing a part here and there that I took off the car. Even if I did bag it and tag it.

Derek69SS · Founding Member

SShink wrote:

Another Chevelle with no front end! I don't think I can remember a time where so many people had their front end's off!!!

All the cool people are doing it

come on, you know you want to

You won't get addicted if you try it just once

Don't be such a wuss

I did it, and I'm still here

Everybody does it

You won't get in trouble