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dashboard · 2K+ Club

Trannys out

bowtie · Secretary

Still digging the wood floor. Thos look plenty sturdy and I bet they aren't tippy whatsoever.

Jon H · 1K+ Club

You doing that in your garage or living room?
Your signature says less weight more speed, that thing ought to fly now w/o the tranny!

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Your right it would but the engine would drag on the ground. Not the living room, the man cave, more of a woodworking shop with the Elky stored in it. While we await parts.

Less weight more speed really refers to aircraft.

How's that new big block working out? Hoping to get my trany back in and still take a spin around the block before it's put away for the winter

John D · 2K+ Club

Ok, we've gotta get you out of that goofy cellulose-based media bleh

, and get you building your stands and holding jigs out of STEEL biggrin

!

(Love the drip pans... your aircraft background is betraying you - no drips means no oil means no flying... as an old radial guy once told me.)

-- Edited by John D on Tuesday 9th of November 2010 07:32:37 AM

Derek69SS · Founding Member

Jon H wrote:
Your signature says less weight more speed, that thing ought to fly now w/o the tranny!

"Adding Lightness" biggrin

Bungy L-76 · Active Member

Kevin, That's just not right. Your "shop" floor is nicer then my living room floor.

jim larson · 2K+ Club

Kevin, i've got 4 of thse jack stands in my garage. They work great.

dashboard wrote:

My throw out bearing started making some noise this summer, turned out I had some other issues as well. Parts on order.
Don't laugh at my jack stands, there rated at 70 tons.

Chris R · 2K+ Club

Bungy L-76 wrote:

Kevin, That's just not right. Your "shop" floor is nicer then my living room floor.

Thats actually his kitchen. biggrin Lol, joking.

Kevin, just in case. Make sure you get a good look at that rear main seal. Now is the perfect time to address that if it leaks. As well as any leaks you might see on the front of the trans.

Nothing like having jackstands where you can raise up the car and not have to worry about opening the door and chipping paint in the gaps due to any sag.

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Chris,

   Once Steve (Bungy L-76) opened up the trany he found some non moving parts had in fact been moving around. I ordered a new main and tail shaft cases from Auto Gear, Steve is building it back up now, so all seals will be new.

   Your right about the wood jack stands, they keep the body nice and straight.

John,

Your right the drip pans are from my aviation background, I sure remember wiping lots of them out.

Also from my aviation background comes my lack of confidence in cheep jack stands. A lifting device welded by a fourteen year old kid while he was looking at some hot Chinese chick, that has no requirement for inspection or NDI testing.

I just feel a lot safer under 3600 lbs of steal with the wood  lifts. If anyone ever wants to use them they are welcome to.

Bungy L-76 · Active Member

TRANS UPDATE:

Was just finishing up Kevin's trans, when I realized the input gear was rubbing the inside of the new case. Tried adding another slinger washer in front of the gear to move it back, but it still rubbed.
I called Auto Gear directly and they didn't hesitate. They're shipping me out a new supercase right away. They think this case might be one of their earlier ones that did have clearance problems, but said this new one will work perfectly.
I have to say that is some great customer service from Auto Gear.

As for the old trans, Kevin just wanted me to add new gaskets to stop the oil drips. After looking inside I found the reverse thrust washer had spun and chewed up the case. It was also completely missing the backside reverse thrust washer. To top it all off, I was able to push the cluster gear pin out with my fingers. In case you didn't know, this is an interferance fit and should be pressed in. Yikes!

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Thanks again Steve, I got your update earlier. Guess we wait for the new case and see how it works, it's very reassuring to know it's in good hands and will be right when I get it back.

Having said that, it really is amazing how some of this old GM, Ford stuff will just keep going and going. I've taken things apart and wondered, how did this still work in the condition it's in?

SShink · 3K+ Club

Steve, it sure is nice having you in the club as one of the Muncie experts!

Now... if you could just learn how to build 200-R4's I'd have you build one for me!

Chris R · 2K+ Club

Kevin. Is that an M22? But I cant remember when I was riding in your car when we were out shooting pictures. Although I do recall some gear whine as if it might have been.

John D · 2K+ Club

Having said that, it really is amazing how some of this old GM, Ford stuff will just keep going and going. I've taken things apart and wondered, how did this still work in the condition it's in?

Same reason as to why the cars are still around... wayyyy over-built for the task at hand. None of the crap produced today will take the kind of neglect the old stuff will - case in point the trans in the wife's car. Mash it from a stoplight and it'll rev like a banchee to 5500, then the 'puter cuts power, lets the box shift, then turns the engine back on. The box won't handle full engine power/torque?? Build a stronger box!

dashboard · 2K+ Club

Yes it is a M22. Never thought I had anything other than a throw out bearing going out.

Chris R wrote:

Kevin. Is that an M22? But I cant remember when I was riding in your car when we were out shooting pictures. Although I do recall some gear whine as if it might have been.

Bungy L-76 · Active Member

SShink wrote:

Steve, it sure is nice having you in the club as one of the Muncie experts!

Now... if you could just learn how to build 200-R4's I'd have you build one for me!

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, just know a little info about those trannys.
Also I probably could build a 2004R as I've rebuilt three 700r4s but I never will again. They're a PITA. Probably would be a lot easier if I had all the GM specialty tools, as I just used some old modified screwdrivers and such.