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Yes, torque values wet or dry. When using anti-seize thread lubricant should one use wet or dry torque values?



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What bolts are you tightening that you are asking this question? Based on that would help me make a decision, but I typically don't change the setting when I use anti-seize on things.



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From my days as a mechanic, all torque values were based on clean, lightly lubricated threads. Anti-sieze has always qualified as a lubricant to me. More important is the "clean" part. Rusty, dirty threads will affect the correct torque more than a lubricant.



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These particular bolts are the Dirty Dingo engine mount adapter bracket bolts; four of them, the specified torque is 30 ft. lbs. I am however using anti-seize compound on all steel bolts going into the aluminum block.

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Mitch, we posted at the same time I think. Yes clean is essential and everything is clean and or new. Aluminum blocks are a new adventure for me and the torques are much less than steel. A wet or lubricated torque is typically 60-73%- of a dry torque; some of the torque values are in the inch pound range and they start to seem a little low using the wet Torque values.

However the product is called VersaChem ANTI-SEIZE THREAD LUBRICANT Type 13. I sent an email off the manufacture but have not heard back.




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After loosing bolts to critical components on my car on more than one occasion, I'd be more inclined to use loctite rather than anti-seize.

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Derek69SS wrote:

After loosing bolts to critical components on my car on more than one occasion, I'd be more inclined to use loctite rather than anti-seize.


 Yup, on low torque aluminum applications, it is recommended to use Lock-tite BLUE as a lubricant and to prevent loosening from vibration. Blue will release in the future with tools, Red requires heat.



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I would torque them to 30 no matter what you put on them.



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I second, or third?, the blue Loctite. OEM,s use it on just about everything nowadays, even high torque fasteners.

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I will use blue Loctite, I have a lifetime supply of the stuff. I'm concerned about exhaust manifolds and other hot areas, the mount adapters are right below the exhaust manifolds . I’m going to use the higher torque values.


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I will use blue Loctite, I have a lifetime supply of the stuff. I'm concerned about exhaust manifolds and other hot areas, the mount adapters are right below the exhaust manifolds . I’m going to use the higher torque values.


 Aluminum expands much faster than steel from heat and the threads will lock on the bolts faster than a she dog....



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