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jim larson


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http://www.historicvehicle.org/Latest-News/September-2011/2011/09/22/Under-hood-ethanol-classic-car

 

Really make you want to avoid the stuff.

(See the full presentation in the Tech Resources sub-forum in this catagory - John D.)



-- Edited by John D on Monday 3rd of October 2011 03:36:03 PM

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Jim, interesting post.  The video confirms everything I know about this subject from being the small engine buyer where I used to work.

My previous employer has had numerous snow thrower recalls over the past 2 years because of the effects of ethanol on chinese produced engines because the rubber hoses keep decomposing, and then the debris gets into the carb and the needles stick.  This resulted in the product not starting, or sometimes allowing all the fuel to dump on the ground... not good either way.

I looked on the website referenced in the video and found non-ethanol gas stations in the area.  Jim, there are couple in Red Wing.  Here's the link to the midwest, then you have to zoom in on the area you want to see:  http://www.historicvehicle.org/Commissions/Commissions/Legislative/Pure-Gas-Map/Midwest

I know a couple of guys in the club that try to only use non-oxygenated fuels for this reason.  It's hard to avoid ethanol.  Even though the pump may not say E10, there is up to 8% ethanol in regular blends.  We verified this where I used to work when one of the engine suppliers disputed our test results.  We went to the corner station in Bloomington, and it showed 7% ethanol even though it wasn't shown on the pump.

Ethanol is nasty stuff!  Maybe another reason to drop in a modern engine that's built to withstand it! 



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given these facts are there any gas stations you know of where this can be avoided. I hear Shell 91 octane is suppose to be good. I am not sure of there properties all I know is that is seems to be about .30-40 more then anywhere else. Greenway 92 now Cenex 92 octane use to be good, but I have no idea if it is different now that it is Cenex. I see many people in Rochester like the Tronsin oil gas

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Oh I hate that @#*&  That map is awesome! The MSRA Linechaser also lists gas stations around the state that carry non-oxy gas. (some not on that map)

Here's a link to their web site listing:

http://www.msra.com/NonOxygenatedFuel/NonOxySept2011.pdf



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The 2 Jack Ass Brothers Click and Clack have stated that there is no problem with ethanol in cars, just a wives tale started by the old car crowd. The guys who drive those old dangerous cars that have no place on todays roads. And as they told a woman on their show she was concerned with her husband and son working on a mid 60s Buick. Their advice was to keep that dangerous car off the streets and cut the brake lines on it so they could not drive it.

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Joes Mobil in Red Wing has non-ozy.  Also Marathon on the north end of Red Wing; but it is cut to 89 Octange.

Hear the Freedom stations in WI have 92 non-oxy.  Also Frontanac, Wabasha, Fleet farms in Rochester, along with what Jim from PI mentioned.

I try to fill my car with aviation gas for winter storage.



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I have a Marathon a couple blocks away that has non-oxy gas and that's the only local place I fill the chevelle up at.

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I moved the thread to here. I contacted the HVA via email, and they sent me the full presentation that the video is a portion of. Please go back to the root directory and click on the Tech Resources sub-forum to see the full presentation.

The full presentation includes links to non-ethanol resources, etc.

(I moved it so I can include the full presentation in the "Tech Resources" sub-forum of this catagory.)



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Good Idea John.

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