Karl, Let me know when you plan on doing the tour, I have a lot of friends working there, includeing the tour guide guys. I can buy you lunch, I think I owe you a couple from the buffet you throw every winter. My shop is about 1/2 a mile south of the WIT center. I can probably get you some deals on stuff if you need it, Cathy is the computer programming manager at Winnebago. We did the factory tour this summer of their new plant in Indiana, was fun. You'll love that Journey, they are really nice units!