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Aren't most of the El Camino parts (except the body ones of course) interchangeable with the chevelles of the same years?  Things like rear ends, dashes, steering columns, etc.  
  



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Yes most of that stuff is the same.

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There's a few things that are still unique, but yeah for the most part the mechanicals are interchangeable. Same with Monte Carlo's for that matter.

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Thanks guys. Just wanted to confirm before going to look at a rusty barn find 72 El Camino.


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aHere I thought the question was going to be how cool a El Camino was over a Chevelle!

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Ok so you are leaving us hanging here. Did you find an elcamino with a 402 in it and 12 bolt to swap into your chevelle or what?   biggrin

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I haven't looked at it yet. Waiting to hear back on it. It's buried in the corner and it will take a little work to make it accessible. My friend saw it and he could see the tailgate and one side. It is an SS but the guy is sure it is a 350. He doesn't remember if it has buckets or a bench. It's buried under 20 plus years of dust. I already have a 12 bolt in my car
but it never hurts to have a spare :)

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Say it's not so, your not going to part out an El Camino for a Chevelle.

Interiors are the same except doors. Glass, doors, and fenders are different, Elky driveshaft longer. Lots of other little stuff, gas tank, frame.....

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Kevin,
It's supposed to be too far gone rust wise and is only good for parts. That's the opinion of the owner and my friend who saw it. My friend owns a custom restoration shop so I trust his opinion. There are some items besides the dash I would be interested in depending how it is optioned. Until I hear back that the guy has dug it out for me to look at and I get to go see it I won't know much. I figured if I wasn't interested I could get some pics and maybe Jamie or someone else in the club might be.

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Finally got a chance to look at the El Camino. It's all there and a small block SS but its very rusty. Dark green, black vinyl top and black bucket interior with stapler shifter. All the parts I would be interested in are there. Made him an offer. He was going to check with another guy who's wanted it for years but has never came up with the cash. I'll let you guys know if I end up getting it. I offered him much less than the other guy but I don't think that guy would ever truly pony up or he would have by now. Hope the seller doesn't waste any more time waiting for that guy.  



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Just show up with "Benjamins" in-hand and convince him.

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Make sure you get pictures before moving anything. People love to see that kind of stuff. Most mechanical parts and interior parts are the same as chevelle.



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Dashes may be different... they were in '69, not sure about 70-72.

Coupes & converts had astro-ventilation, El Caminos did not (because they still had vent-windows).

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I hope the dash is the same because that is one of the pieces I would be interested in.

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Went and picked up the barn find parts car El Camino SS today with Jamie's help.  Too bad it was so dang rusty because it was all there.  Only an H code 350 so no 12 bolt but the SS hood is one of the nicest used ones I've seen.  Seats are good cores with nice headrests.  Center console and shifter are nice.  Dash is nice.  Don't think it has been cut up but the silver around the radio doesn't continue around the bottom like it does in my 71 sweepeer dash?  It was an early 72 so it doesn't have the seat belt warning light and will look correct in my 71.  5 SS wheels including the spare.  Had the original warranty pamphlet with protect-o-plate with the date of delivery being 9/30/71.  It was bought at the Frederic Auto Co. in Frederic WI by someone who lived in Danbury.  Sequoia Green with black vinyl top and interior.  Motor is all stock with original parts and stickers.  Seats are already out and hood is off.  Didn't find a build sheet under the seats or carpeting or on top of the glove box.  So rusty guessing even if one is on the gas tank it would be ruined.  Maybe I will come across one somewhere else?

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The link to your Hub Garage wants a log in...

What's TOO rusty ?? I don't see anything other than surface. You ever see the pics of my GTO ?? Now THAT'S too rusty, but some dang fool STILL replaced the frame, complete floor and rockers.



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Quarters, bed floor, door bottoms are all rusted bad. Sorry about the link. Hoped it would work. My garage name is Entropy Garage might be able to check it out that way.



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Nice find. How is the frame? Is that rusted out and junk too?



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OscarZ wrote:

Quarters, bed floor, door bottoms are all rusted bad. Sorry about the link. Hoped it would work. My garage name is Entropy Garage might be able to check it out that way.


The Garage wants a password too...

Shoot Mike, doors are a bolt on replacement. Bed floor and quarters might have to come from a good donor, I'm not familiar with what's available for a 'Camino. Like Chris said, if the frame is good and it's all original it may be worth saving. I know you didn't buy it for that, but if you got it cheap enough, clean it up and throw it on ebay to see if you can make a decent profit and buy the parts you need and have money left over.

 



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If it was a bigblock car, it might be worth saving but a smallblock SS el camino just isn't worth enough to bring back from the dead like that... look at how cheap Brad sold his documented '70 SS396 el camino. I love el caminos, but they're worth about half as much as a comparable Chevelle coupe when finished.

Good find though! Lots of good stuff on it.

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Spent 5 hours taking parts off the El Camino today. Reminded me how much I dislike wrenching on rusty cars. Made some good progress. Main things left are the dash, shifter and the seat and shifter mounting brackets. Do have one question. Do the plastic covers over the lap belts that retract just pop off somehow?

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Yes, the covers pop off. I can't remember if they snap on the ends or sides, but if you look close, you should see where to pry out gently on the cover to release it.

Gotta love rust fasteners....



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The front bumper did me in. Used my jack handle to get more leverage and got it off but it was a struggle. I'm sure I'll be feeling it when fishing tomorrow morning.

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An inpact is almost a necessity for stripping apart a rusty car.



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Chris R wrote:

An inpact is almost a necessity for stripping apart a rusty car.


I LOVE my plasma for bumper bracket bolts. It's so much more controllable than a torch that all it cuts is the nut.

A cheap 4.5 grinder with a cut off blade helps too. I sometimes cut off the extra threads beyond the nut and then you don't need to fight that rust. Only the threads left in the nut to get it off.

 



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I have to drill/cut out the brackets for the bucket seats and center console to mount them in my car. It would be nice to have such things for that.

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I have to drill/cut out the brackets for the bucket seats and center console to mount them in my car. It would be nice to have such things for that.


$20 for a grinder at Northern and they come with some discs. If it doesn't have a cut off blade, they are only another couple bucks. That tool will save you much time and frustration. Just don't get your hand in the blade......it removes meat faster than a speeding bullet.

 



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Dismantled the El Camino a little more today.  Took a few more pics.  I'm going to need a tetanus shot before I'm done...::

 

 

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Yeah, OK, you might be right about it being a little too far gone to save.....::



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Mike, check your PMs

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Jamie had said you guys had some fun out there and he went back for more on his own. He did pick up another car to work on in his spare time like he has any.

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I talked to Jamie on the phone a few times since he helped you that day. He said it was too far gone to restore. Boy was he right.



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wow! thats a rusty one!!! Good for parts though.

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I would have loved to find a nicer SS this complete but it was a good parts car for me and will make a good template for Jamie to reference in his restoration since it is unaltered other than the previous rust repair (not done very well as you can see) and repaint.

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The El Camino moved on to Jamie's today. Cut the last pieces out yesterday morning.nana I have my parts and a big pile of rust. Now to put them away until I'm ready to use them and start working on the Chevelle. A few last pics:

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You should send the original pictures to the Cars-in-Barns website. 



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