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After putting in the 1" Hotchkis lowering springs and Bilstein shocks, the Chevelle is riding/handling great, but I need to get it in for a front end alignment since the spring install may have changed things.

Derek-You gave me some alignment recommendations a couple of years ago for the white '71 Chevelle I had at the time.  Can you list those again for stock arms and the 1" lowering springs?

I know it's somewhat limited with the stock geometry, but I think I remember you recommended puting some negative camber in it?  headscratch

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Camber: - 0.25deg
Caster: + as much as possible, and equal on both sides (likely around +2 deg)
Toe: 1/8" IN

It's completely backward from stock specs, but this will be better.

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Got it.  Thanks!  beers

Taking it in Wed. night for the alignment.  Picked up the speedo adaptor to go in line with the 200-4R to adjust for the 3.42 gears today, so the check list is getting very short now!  nana



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Derek69SS wrote:

Camber: - 0.25deg
Caster: + as much as possible, and equal on both sides (likely around +2 deg)
Toe: 1/8" IN

It's completely backward from stock specs, but this will be better.


 Is this the same if you are using bias tires?



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It would work with bias tires too... the only reason to run the factory specs is if you don't have Power Steering, as the + Caster would increase steering effort.

For a car like yours though that you want to look correct, you might want to stick with factory specs just so you don't see a big stack of shims on the back side of the upper A-arm cross shaft. It is pretty obvious when you align for + caster, especially if your shims are new and shiny.

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Derek69SS wrote:

It would work with bias tires too... the only reason to run the factory specs is if you don't have Power Steering, as the + Caster would increase steering effort.

For a car like yours though that you want to look correct, you might want to stick with factory specs just so you don't see a big stack of shims on the back side of the upper A-arm cross shaft. It is pretty obvious when you align for + caster, especially if your shims are new and shiny.


 Thanks Derek.  I have the Power Steering.  I  changed to the positive caster about 2 yrs ago.  I could not nice any difference in steering effort.

Yes those new shinny shims look a little odd with a big stack in the back and a single shim in the front.

Maybe I should go back with the -.5 factory caster.  Really don't think I could tell if it turns any easier.

I am thinking about try to change the steering ratio and effort by doinging something like a JGC conversion.  Have you seen my post on that either here or on TC?



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Jim, I have a complete JGC setup (except the metric fitting adapters) if you're interested.

I would stay with the + caster alignment, as it's better for tire wear. To run - caster, you have to run a lot more toe-in for stability, which wears the tires more.

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Derek69SS wrote:

Jim, I have a complete JGC setup (except the metric fitting adapters) if you're interested.


If Jim isn't interested, let me know.  Now that the car is handling more firmly, I can tell the steering box ratio is the next weak link... assuming it would work with a BBC.



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Derek69SS wrote:

Jim, I have a complete JGC setup (except the metric fitting adapters) if you're interested.

I would stay with the + caster alignment, as it's better for tire wear. To run - caster, you have to run a lot more toe-in for stability, which wears the tires more.


 I am just not sure I want to put in a Jeep box as you can see if you check out my post on the project section.  So maybe Stan can use it.  If you have the rag joint for the 3/4" shaft, that should work with his 72 steering shaft according to what I have read.  And I think I read that they started to use the 1400lb pressure valve in the pumps sometime in 1970.  All he would need is  the Lee adaptors.



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