Direct replacment for carb, self learning, can control timing and cooling fan if desired. Seems like a nice kit for a $1000 bucks. Is fairly new system so no real long term test that I could find.
I saw that too Chris on a SEMA report. Maybe Bryan will comment if he talked to them.
At a $1K, that's starting to get attractive compared to a carb...
Lost in the 60s said
Nov 17, 2015
Hmmmm.....if it's REALLY that easy, I MAY have to move into the modern era in the future.
The under hood fuel pump looks like a cool set-up too. A bit pricey but less work than a tank change.
SShink said
Nov 17, 2015
So just under $1400 all in with the sump/fuel pump kit. Still a little too high for me...
30001 - Go EFI 4 600 HP System - Bright Tumbled Finish -
$995.00
40003 - Fuel Command Center - (Platinum Gray) -
$395.00
dashboard said
Nov 17, 2015
EFI is a subject I find very interesting. I’d love to be rid of trying to amalgamate old school carburetor’s and today fuels. I see a lot of impressive advertising with boastful promises; it would be nice to read a ‘been in service for a year report.’
I believe we have some members that have incorporated EFI systems into their rides; it would be nice to hear some feedback from them. A lesson’s learned, installation, growing pains, any issues with startup, idle, power surge, fuel to air ratios, economy, MPG improvement.
So if you’ve installed such a system and operated it for while, please feel free to jump in thump your chest and exercise bragging rights; please share your experience with us.
67ss said
Nov 17, 2015
Don't forget Spectra makes fuel tanks with intake pumps for older cars that are bolt in and not all that expensive when comparing to the command center thing the FItech and some others sell.
I think Kevin used a Spectra tank in his skylark with good results.
Chris R said
Nov 17, 2015
dashboard wrote:
EFI is a subject I find very interesting. I’d love to be rid of trying to amalgamate old school carburetor’s and today fuels. I see a lot of impressive advertising with boastful promises; it would be nice to read a ‘been in service for a year report.’ I believe we have some members that have incorporated EFI systems into their rides; it would be nice to hear some feedback from them. A lesson’s learned, installation, growing pains, any issues with startup, idle, power surge, fuel to air ratios, economy, MPG improvement. So if you’ve installed such a system and operated it for while, please feel free to jump in thump your chest and exercise bragging rights; please share your experience with us.
I was thinking the same thing. I recall one of our members a year or so ago was having a lot of trouble trying to get a relatively unknown carb replacement type brand EFI system like this running and it was nothing but a headache for him. I would definetly want to know if this system will last long term drivability wise.
Ive seen the Spectra EFI tanks which are the same as what Tanks Inc sells. Very nice quality and cost is roughly the same as a stock replacement tank. My 69 needs a tank and ill be using one of these stock replacement EFI tanks for use with the Commander 950 EFI system I bought from Keith.
bowtie said
Nov 18, 2015
I have a Spectra tank in my car, but I used a factory replacement one and factory replacement sender. My pump is external.
67ss said
Nov 18, 2015
Bryan and I both have EFI in our cars. I pieced together both of our systems using GM computers and parts. But it is very old technology compared to todays stuff. Back when I originally built my car EFI was very vodoo they did not have all the conversion stuff that is available today.
Over the winter I am going to try an upgrade on our computers that now has some self learning integration, wide band o2 input, and flashing ability so no proms to have to erase and reprogram each time. The web site for this upgrade is http://www.dynamicefi.com/ if anybody wants to do some reading. Going to try it out on my car first to see how it all works and then will do Bryans. Still not as easy as the kits out today but is a cheaper option then going with a whole new computer and having to install a new wiring harness.
Lost in the 60s said
Nov 18, 2015
I found some talk about this system on Team Chevelle, but no one has actually installed and run one yet.
SShink said
Nov 19, 2015
Here's some interesting info from Super Chevy on the Top 10 things to include on an EFI conversion:
Honestly, $1400 is a pretty good deal for converting.
I know I'm into mine for more: I had to swap intakes, add a rail kit, throttle body, injectors, regulator, different dizzy and wires, new feed and return fuel lines, pump, pre and main filters, tank/sending unit, computer, scanner port, prom chip, MAP sensor, O2 sensor, wiring harness, new throttle cable, different air filter (and subsequent cold air setup), and that doesn't include Chris's invaluable expertise.
I'm excited to get the computer upgrade done, it's been in the works for about 2 years now.
dashboard said
Nov 21, 2015
67ss wrote:
Don't forget Spectra makes fuel tanks with intake pumps for older cars that are bolt in and not all that expensive when comparing to the command center thing the FItech and some others sell.
I think Kevin used a Spectra tank in his skylark with good results.
I did use a Spectra tank in the yellow car, once I got one with the correct filler neck, it fit great. About $400.00 from ORileys, many vendors sell them for over $700.00. I did need to replace the pump this spring but its fine now.
Still looking for in service EFI reports.
bowtie said
Nov 21, 2015
FYI, Brake and Equipment Warehouse in Minneapolis and Auto City Classic in Isanti both sell Spectra brand last I heard.
Grajmahal said
Nov 21, 2015
Here's a video from a guy who did his '66 a couple years back. www.youtube.com/watch Different system, but some measurable results.
John
dashboard said
Nov 22, 2015
Thanks for posting that John, it was very informative.
Direct replacment for carb, self learning, can control timing and cooling fan if desired. Seems like a nice kit for a $1000 bucks. Is fairly new system so no real long term test that I could find.
http://fitechefi.com/
I saw that too Chris on a SEMA report. Maybe Bryan will comment if he talked to them.
At a $1K, that's starting to get attractive compared to a carb...
The under hood fuel pump looks like a cool set-up too. A bit pricey but less work than a tank change.
So just under $1400 all in with the sump/fuel pump kit. Still a little too high for me...
I believe we have some members that have incorporated EFI systems into their rides; it would be nice to hear some feedback from them. A lesson’s learned, installation, growing pains, any issues with startup, idle, power surge, fuel to air ratios, economy, MPG improvement.
So if you’ve installed such a system and operated it for while, please feel free to jump in thump your chest and exercise bragging rights; please share your experience with us.
Don't forget Spectra makes fuel tanks with intake pumps for older cars that are bolt in and not all that expensive when comparing to the command center thing the FItech and some others sell.
I think Kevin used a Spectra tank in his skylark with good results.
I was thinking the same thing. I recall one of our members a year or so ago was having a lot of trouble trying to get a relatively unknown carb replacement type brand EFI system like this running and it was nothing but a headache for him. I would definetly want to know if this system will last long term drivability wise.
Ive seen the Spectra EFI tanks which are the same as what Tanks Inc sells. Very nice quality and cost is roughly the same as a stock replacement tank. My 69 needs a tank and ill be using one of these stock replacement EFI tanks for use with the Commander 950 EFI system I bought from Keith.
Bryan and I both have EFI in our cars. I pieced together both of our systems using GM computers and parts. But it is very old technology compared to todays stuff. Back when I originally built my car EFI was very vodoo they did not have all the conversion stuff that is available today.
Over the winter I am going to try an upgrade on our computers that now has some self learning integration, wide band o2 input, and flashing ability so no proms to have to erase and reprogram each time. The web site for this upgrade is http://www.dynamicefi.com/ if anybody wants to do some reading. Going to try it out on my car first to see how it all works and then will do Bryans. Still not as easy as the kits out today but is a cheaper option then going with a whole new computer and having to install a new wiring harness.
Here's some interesting info from Super Chevy on the Top 10 things to include on an EFI conversion:
TOP 10 EFI HELP IDEAS LINK
I know I'm into mine for more: I had to swap intakes, add a rail kit, throttle body, injectors, regulator, different dizzy and wires, new feed and return fuel lines, pump, pre and main filters, tank/sending unit, computer, scanner port, prom chip, MAP sensor, O2 sensor, wiring harness, new throttle cable, different air filter (and subsequent cold air setup), and that doesn't include Chris's invaluable expertise.
I'm excited to get the computer upgrade done, it's been in the works for about 2 years now.
I did use a Spectra tank in the yellow car, once I got one with the correct filler neck, it fit great. About $400.00 from ORileys, many vendors sell them for over $700.00. I did need to replace the pump this spring but its fine now.
Still looking for in service EFI reports.
John
www.rodauthority.com/tech-stories/ignition-electronics-efi/video-affordable-efi-conversions-for-the-street-and-for-the-track/
What the heck is the nakedladymachine ???
computer.
Slang term for a computer. One of the dudes on the 93X morning show likes to use that term a lot as well.
New to me...I've never heard it before...
Not a 93X guy...