As some of you know, I bought a '66 Malibu with a big block last summer. I changed the oil for the first time about a week ago and ran into a problem. The oil pan has kickouts on the sides for more capacity. When I removed the filter, it got as far as the kickout and between that and the headers, there was no room to get it out. I've decided to go to a remote oil filter setup. That will also make it easier for an old guy like me to change oil/filter in the future. The previous owner loosened or removed the header but I don't want to do that each time I change oil.
Any suggestions on where to go (preferably in the south metro) to get a set of braided oil lines made up for me?
One other thing --- it doesn't look like removing the exhaust manifold and collector bolts will be difficult, but I'm wondering if I could avoid that by using large Channellock pliers to crush the filter. Another possibility would be to use a cutoff wheel.
Any suggestions on either the oil lines and/or the oil filter removal?
Thanks in advance!
-- Edited by 66 RAT on Sunday 19th of May 2013 03:42:48 PM
66 RAT said
May 19, 2013
K ---- It's a long filter and you're right that the length doesn't really matter. With the filter either on end or on its side, there's not enough room to get it out.
Compressing/cutting the old one was just to avoid loosening/removing the header to get the old one out. There would be enough room to get the adapter and lines screwed onto the block if the header was left in place.
M ---- You're probably right about not having a mess from "forcing" it out.
-- Edited by 66 RAT on Sunday 19th of May 2013 04:51:55 PM
dashboard said
May 19, 2013
It may make no difference but is it a long or short filter? I guess if you compress or cut the old filter you still need to get the new one in.
Lost in the 60s said
May 19, 2013
If it was me, I'd loosen the header to remove the filter intack this time to avoid the inevitable oil mess of crushing or cutting.
As for a remote filter mount, you can get a kit for that which includes the hose and ends that you assemble yourself. No need to have them crimped. AN and Aeroquip fittings are re-usable.
No idea who would have a kit in stock around here but Street Side, Summit and Jegs would all have it on your door in a day or two.
Street Side is in KC and I've ordered stuff in the morning and had it the next afternoon. Actually, this one comes with 30" preformed hoses.
I run a kickout pan and use the short WIX R filter assume you dont have slip fit individual tube headers if you do as only one pipe needs to be loosened ............. yes choose good lines and fittings for a remote filter ......... they can and do leak or split open when oil cold and you rev it esp if you run thick oil ..........
.....modify your header IMO if this a serious engine chose your line ID carefully .........
.... I have crushed the filter with the long handle oil filter wrench jaws easy to do if you use a reg duty filter harder if you use a R type filter ........ can you loosen filter at least
As has been suggested how often do you change the filter?? I only change the filter when car down for winter and I run a plugged bypass too quality filter like a WIX R should be fine for a season unless you race alot , is loosen the header that tough
-- Edited by CDNSS on Tuesday 21st of May 2013 10:41:00 PM
-- Edited by CDNSS on Tuesday 21st of May 2013 10:42:04 PM
67ss said
May 22, 2013
The lines that come with those adapters suck. I had one of those kits on an S-10 with a small block and the lines always leaked. Make new AN braded lines and you should not have any problems. Is there enough room to squeeze a small GM filter like a PF 52? There are adapter that can go on the motor to screw on that smaller filter.
dashboard said
May 22, 2013
Ron, how many miles do you put on the car in a year and how is it stored in the winter? If you use a good quality synthetic oil and only change the filter every other oil change that filter could easily last until 2016 or longer.
At least it’s an option to a remote filter; the new oils are so superior to the old products you can get a lot more life out of it. There is also the thought that a slightly used filter will filter better.
66 RAT said
May 22, 2013
Thanks for the replies . . .
I did remove the filter using the "crush" method. It wasn't too messy so that wasn't a problem. I'm having Northern Racing Products in Rosemount make up the braided SS lines with AN fittings.
I'm thinking of painting the filter red to match the car. Will ordinary spray paint be OK or should I be using something that will hold up better with the heat?
As some of you know, I bought a '66 Malibu with a big block last summer. I changed the oil for the first time about a week ago and ran into a problem. The oil pan has kickouts on the sides for more capacity. When I removed the filter, it got as far as the kickout and between that and the headers, there was no room to get it out. I've decided to go to a remote oil filter setup. That will also make it easier for an old guy like me to change oil/filter in the future. The previous owner loosened or removed the header but I don't want to do that each time I change oil.
Any suggestions on where to go (preferably in the south metro) to get a set of braided oil lines made up for me?
One other thing --- it doesn't look like removing the exhaust manifold and collector bolts will be difficult, but I'm wondering if I could avoid that by using large Channellock pliers to crush the filter. Another possibility would be to use a cutoff wheel.
Any suggestions on either the oil lines and/or the oil filter removal?
Thanks in advance!
-- Edited by 66 RAT on Sunday 19th of May 2013 03:42:48 PM
K ---- It's a long filter and you're right that the length doesn't really matter. With the filter either on end or on its side, there's not enough room to get it out.
Compressing/cutting the old one was just to avoid loosening/removing the header to get the old one out. There would be enough room to get the adapter and lines screwed onto the block if the header was left in place.
M ---- You're probably right about not having a mess from "forcing" it out.
-- Edited by 66 RAT on Sunday 19th of May 2013 04:51:55 PM
If it was me, I'd loosen the header to remove the filter intack this time to avoid the inevitable oil mess of crushing or cutting.
As for a remote filter mount, you can get a kit for that which includes the hose and ends that you assemble yourself. No need to have them crimped. AN and Aeroquip fittings are re-usable.
No idea who would have a kit in stock around here but Street Side, Summit and Jegs would all have it on your door in a day or two.
Street Side is in KC and I've ordered stuff in the morning and had it the next afternoon. Actually, this one comes with 30" preformed hoses.
http://www.streetsideauto.com/p/transdapt-1122/
I run a kickout pan and use the short WIX R filter assume you dont have slip fit individual tube headers if you do as only one pipe needs to be loosened ............. yes choose good lines and fittings for a remote filter ......... they can and do leak or split open when oil cold and you rev it esp if you run thick oil ..........
.....modify your header IMO if this a serious engine chose your line ID carefully .........
.... I have crushed the filter with the long handle oil filter wrench jaws easy to do if you use a reg duty filter harder if you use a R type filter ........ can you loosen filter at least
As has been suggested how often do you change the filter?? I only change the filter when car down for winter and I run a plugged bypass too quality filter like a WIX R should be fine for a season unless you race alot , is loosen the header that tough
-- Edited by CDNSS on Tuesday 21st of May 2013 10:41:00 PM
-- Edited by CDNSS on Tuesday 21st of May 2013 10:42:04 PM
The lines that come with those adapters suck. I had one of those kits on an S-10 with a small block and the lines always leaked. Make new AN braded lines and you should not have any problems. Is there enough room to squeeze a small GM filter like a PF 52? There are adapter that can go on the motor to screw on that smaller filter.
At least it’s an option to a remote filter; the new oils are so superior to the old products you can get a lot more life out of it. There is also the thought that a slightly used filter will filter better.
I did remove the filter using the "crush" method. It wasn't too messy so that wasn't a problem. I'm having Northern Racing Products in Rosemount make up the braided SS lines with AN fittings.
I'm thinking of painting the filter red to match the car. Will ordinary spray paint be OK or should I be using something that will hold up better with the heat?