To much for me to take on; but a nice potential 66 SS with lots of options.
jim larson said
Apr 23, 2013
I think the seller is a little optomistic on potencial value, expecially with a NOM. Lots of nice options, AC,PB, PS, buckets, console, wood wheel, tilt wheel, AM/FM, Multiplex, Automatic, and deluxe belts.
It would be a fun project for the right guy at the right price. 66 Chevelle. What do you think would be a fair price?
Lost in the 60s said
Apr 23, 2013
That car is a bomb. Someone is buying a title and tags. Not much left to restore and the bucket seats are '67.
Bid is slightly over 6k now and that would beat my high bid...
Yeah, he's a real salesman. To read the description, he makes it sound like the interior is still good and it's TRASH !!
jim larson said
Apr 23, 2013
It has the 66 remote ps set up, I can't see the pump; but if everthing is there, that goes for about $500-$800 alone. I saw the buckets and yes they are 67's ($3-500); but I think it was a bucket seat car with console. The 66 chevelle AM/FM radio and Multiplex go for about $1000 if they are OK. Original KK tack and guage package? if Original 12 bolt with posi, then add $1500 plus. If the frame is good $500-$1000. Then you have all the other elements of the frame. Four extra doors. Extra parts and some new parts. Front fenders and passenger quarter look ok. Looks to need work around front and rear windshield. Maybe only the front floor pans and the trunk pan need to be replaced. Look at the hood ground clip, you don't see that very often. The engine is anyones guess, ;but if it has a 66-67 oil pan, add $500. Interior is trash; but you have the seats and $2000 will get you everthing else from Legendary.
I would be supprised if bids don't reach $10,000. I would probably be on my way if I could get it for $7,000.
Chris R said
Apr 23, 2013
That car is well worth restoring. With all those rare options and no where do I see this car needing anything different then any other midwest car needing a full frame off restoration. With all the extra parts and the rare stuff 10K isnt out of line IMO. May not be worth it to most people but then, you dont see a 360 horse car w/AC, gauges, multiplex, tilt, wood wheel and the very rare HD alternator all factory installed on the same car either.
SShink said
Apr 23, 2013
One thing I've learned on my vert resto with Tim's guidance, is that if it looks that bad on the surface... there's more issues lurking underneath! My bodywork wasn't near that bad, and he still found a lot of issues. I guess like others said, you are buying the VIN and all the options, but the bones are all bad and would have to be replaced. Possibly even the frame if it's like the rest of the underside.
Cool looking alternator though. I've never seen one like that, but I'm not as much up on the mid 60's stuff.
dashboard said
Apr 29, 2013
This could be interesting at the end.
jim larson said
Apr 29, 2013
dashboard wrote:
This could be interesting at the end.
Top bid only reached $9700. Reserve not reached.
Derek69SS said
Apr 29, 2013
Seller was stupid not to take the money IMHO. I would have guessed its value to be around $7500, more if parted out (unfortunately).
dashboard said
Apr 29, 2013
I’m not an ebay expert but I’m curious why the seller used private bidding. I think Mitch was right, it’s about the tags and title. The seller got a lot of free marketing out of the listing; I think the car will now be sold one piece at a time.
Lost in the 60s said
Apr 29, 2013
dashboard wrote:
I’m not an ebay expert but I’m curious why the seller used private bidding. I think Mitch was right, it’s about the tags and title. The seller got a lot of free marketing out of the listing; I think the car will now be sold one piece at a time.
He can always send the high bidder a second-chance-offer to sell it at the high bid. I see this all the time. The seller sets a reserve extremely high to "fish" for as much as they can get.
Private listings eliminate some of the feedback process and Q&A. As I said originally, it was a lot of hype and not much to back it up. Ad stated it had a 360 hp engine but it wasn't the original. Does the current engine code out to 360 or is that just more hype because it has a "correct" intake ? The carb wasn't original nor even from the correct era. Head casting numbers/date codes ?? I saw no documentation to prove anything. He didn't even have pics of the axle code to back up his posi claim. If he expects to get a pile of gold out of it, back up the claims with facts.
I figured Stan would have a different view of cars in that condition after his recent experience. Most of the "original" sheet metal it "retains" is toast and meaningless.
jim larson said
Apr 29, 2013
I would suspect he had a high reserve and had a person biding the car up. Would be nice if someone got it for a reasonable price and could reserect. Lot of body work need. Probably around $10,000 and then you have frame, suppension, interior, and everthing else. I would guess you would have at least $20-30K into it plus the cost to buy.
SShink said
Apr 29, 2013
Lost in the 60s wrote:
I figured Stan would have a different view of cars in that condition after his recent experience. Most of the "original" sheet metal it "retains" is toast and meaningless.
You are correct Mitch. My eyes have been opened big time in regards to the cost of restoring a car with rust issues. My previous strategy of buying a car in as good a condition as you can afford seems to make more sense than ever to me now that I've gone down the frame off path, but I'm appreciating the hard work and time needed to do it right. It's been a great learning experience for me.
Jim, I think you can increase that body work estimate by another 50-75% of that value if a restoration shop does the work and paint. Less if you have the skills that Tim and Mitch do, but still a ton of work/$$$ IMO.
John D said
Apr 29, 2013
Missouri and north, you're buying a VIN tag & options... Missouri and south, you're buying a car.
That car will need complete floors, rockers, roof patches, A-pillar/cowl work, B-pillar/trunk, and probably a frame.
dashboard said
May 5, 2013
It's back......................and it’s another private auction.
-- Edited by dashboard on Monday 6th of May 2013 07:24:50 AM
Lost in the 60s said
May 12, 2013
It's winding down and I'm the high bidder for now at far less than it ended the first time. I'm probably at half his reserve...
jim larson said
May 12, 2013
Lost in the 60s wrote:
It's winding down and I'm the high bidder for now at far less than it ended the first time. I'm probably at half his reserve...
If you get it, I might be available to ride down with you when you go to pick it up.
SShink said
May 12, 2013
Lost in the 60s wrote:
It's winding down and I'm the high bidder for now at far less than it ended the first time. I'm probably at half his reserve...
So if you get it, where does this fall in the Mitch stable of automobiles? Part it out and put the parts on the bronze '66, or sell something and restore this one?
Hope you get it!
Lost in the 60s said
May 12, 2013
SShink wrote:
Lost in the 60s wrote:
It's winding down and I'm the high bidder for now at far less than it ended the first time. I'm probably at half his reserve...
So if you get it, where does this fall in the Mitch stable of automobiles? Part it out and put the parts on the bronze '66, or sell something and restore this one?
Hope you get it!
I'm at my max and I'm sure someone will outbid me. Either way, the reserve isn't met yet and my bid is 2k less than the high bid last time.
jim larson said
May 14, 2013
Looks like it sold for $9000.
Lost in the 60s said
May 14, 2013
Up until the last second, it said reserve not met and now it says winning bid....
He had a bid of $9700 on the first auction. It took a couple weeks to come back and I bet he did a second chance offer and that bidder turned it down after seeing it in person.
I think the seller is a little optomistic on potencial value, expecially with a NOM. Lots of nice options, AC,PB, PS, buckets, console, wood wheel, tilt wheel, AM/FM, Multiplex, Automatic, and deluxe belts.
It would be a fun project for the right guy at the right price. 66 Chevelle. What do you think would be a fair price?
That car is a bomb. Someone is buying a title and tags. Not much left to restore and the bucket seats are '67.
Bid is slightly over 6k now and that would beat my high bid...
Yeah, he's a real salesman. To read the description, he makes it sound like the interior is still good and it's TRASH !!
It has the 66 remote ps set up, I can't see the pump; but if everthing is there, that goes for about $500-$800 alone. I saw the buckets and yes they are 67's ($3-500); but I think it was a bucket seat car with console. The 66 chevelle AM/FM radio and Multiplex go for about $1000 if they are OK. Original KK tack and guage package? if Original 12 bolt with posi, then add $1500 plus. If the frame is good $500-$1000. Then you have all the other elements of the frame. Four extra doors. Extra parts and some new parts. Front fenders and passenger quarter look ok. Looks to need work around front and rear windshield. Maybe only the front floor pans and the trunk pan need to be replaced. Look at the hood ground clip, you don't see that very often. The engine is anyones guess, ;but if it has a 66-67 oil pan, add $500. Interior is trash; but you have the seats and $2000 will get you everthing else from Legendary.
I would be supprised if bids don't reach $10,000. I would probably be on my way if I could get it for $7,000.
That car is well worth restoring. With all those rare options and no where do I see this car needing anything different then any other midwest car needing a full frame off restoration. With all the extra parts and the rare stuff 10K isnt out of line IMO. May not be worth it to most people but then, you dont see a 360 horse car w/AC, gauges, multiplex, tilt, wood wheel and the very rare HD alternator all factory installed on the same car either.
One thing I've learned on my vert resto with Tim's guidance, is that if it looks that bad on the surface... there's more issues lurking underneath!
My bodywork wasn't near that bad, and he still found a lot of issues. I guess like others said, you are buying the VIN and all the options, but the bones are all bad and would have to be replaced. Possibly even the frame if it's like the rest of the underside.
Cool looking alternator though. I've never seen one like that, but I'm not as much up on the mid 60's stuff.
Top bid only reached $9700. Reserve not reached.
I’m not an ebay expert but I’m curious why the seller used private bidding. I think Mitch was right, it’s about the tags and title. The seller got a lot of free marketing out of the listing; I think the car will now be sold one piece at a time.
He can always send the high bidder a second-chance-offer to sell it at the high bid. I see this all the time. The seller sets a reserve extremely high to "fish" for as much as they can get.
Private listings eliminate some of the feedback process and Q&A. As I said originally, it was a lot of hype and not much to back it up. Ad stated it had a 360 hp engine but it wasn't the original. Does the current engine code out to 360 or is that just more hype because it has a "correct" intake ? The carb wasn't original nor even from the correct era. Head casting numbers/date codes ?? I saw no documentation to prove anything. He didn't even have pics of the axle code to back up his posi claim. If he expects to get a pile of gold out of it, back up the claims with facts.
I figured Stan would have a different view of cars in that condition after his recent experience. Most of the "original" sheet metal it "retains" is toast and meaningless.
I would suspect he had a high reserve and had a person biding the car up. Would be nice if someone got it for a reasonable price and could reserect. Lot of body work need. Probably around $10,000 and then you have frame, suppension, interior, and everthing else. I would guess you would have at least $20-30K into it plus the cost to buy.
You are correct Mitch. My eyes have been opened big time in regards to the cost of restoring a car with rust issues. My previous strategy of buying a car in as good a condition as you can afford seems to make more sense than ever to me now that I've gone down the frame off path, but I'm appreciating the hard work and time needed to do it right. It's been a great learning experience for me.
Jim, I think you can increase that body work estimate by another 50-75% of that value if a restoration shop does the work and paint. Less if you have the skills that Tim and Mitch do, but still a ton of work/$$$ IMO.
Missouri and south, you're buying a car.
That car will need complete floors, rockers, roof patches, A-pillar/cowl work, B-pillar/trunk, and probably a frame.
It's back......................and it’s another private auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SS-SUPERSPORT-/271201959859?_trksid=p2050601.m2372&_trkparms=aid=111000&algo=REC.CURRENT&ao=1&asc=250&meid=7466011370577064078&pid=100085&prg=1112&rk=4&sd=290911630399&&clkid=7466013470234087301&_qi=RTM1303755&forcev4exp=true
-- Edited by dashboard on Monday 6th of May 2013 07:24:50 AM
It's winding down and I'm the high bidder for now at far less than it ended the first time. I'm probably at half his reserve...
If you get it, I might be available to ride down with you when you go to pick it up.
So if you get it, where does this fall in the Mitch stable of automobiles? Part it out and put the parts on the bronze '66, or sell something and restore this one?
Hope you get it!
I'm at my max and I'm sure someone will outbid me. Either way, the reserve isn't met yet and my bid is 2k less than the high bid last time.
Looks like it sold for $9000.
Up until the last second, it said reserve not met and now it says winning bid....
He had a bid of $9700 on the first auction. It took a couple weeks to come back and I bet he did a second chance offer and that bidder turned it down after seeing it in person.