Yes, torque values wet or dry. When using anti-seize thread lubricant should one use wet or dry torque values?
67ss said
Dec 13, 2012
What bolts are you tightening that you are asking this question? Based on that would help me make a decision, but I typically don't change the setting when I use anti-seize on things.
Lost in the 60s said
Dec 13, 2012
From my days as a mechanic, all torque values were based on clean, lightly lubricated threads. Anti-sieze has always qualified as a lubricant to me. More important is the "clean" part. Rusty, dirty threads will affect the correct torque more than a lubricant.
dashboard said
Dec 13, 2012
These particular bolts are the Dirty Dingo engine mount adapter bracket bolts; four of them, the specified torque is 30 ft. lbs. I am however using anti-seize compound on all steel bolts going into the aluminum block.
dashboard said
Dec 13, 2012
Mitch, we posted at the same time I think. Yes clean is essential and everything is clean and or new. Aluminum blocks are a new adventure for me and the torques are much less than steel. A wet or lubricated torque is typically 60-73%- of a dry torque; some of the torque values are in the inch pound range and they start to seem a little low using the wet Torque values.
However the product is called VersaChem ANTI-SEIZE THREAD LUBRICANT Type 13. I sent an email off the manufacture but have not heard back.
Derek69SS said
Dec 13, 2012
After loosing bolts to critical components on my car on more than one occasion, I'd be more inclined to use loctite rather than anti-seize.
Lost in the 60s said
Dec 13, 2012
Derek69SS wrote:
After loosing bolts to critical components on my car on more than one occasion, I'd be more inclined to use loctite rather than anti-seize.
Yup, on low torque aluminum applications, it is recommended to use Lock-tite BLUE as a lubricant and to prevent loosening from vibration. Blue will release in the future with tools, Red requires heat.
67ss said
Dec 13, 2012
I would torque them to 30 no matter what you put on them.
Back in Black said
Dec 13, 2012
I second, or third?, the blue Loctite. OEM,s use it on just about everything nowadays, even high torque fasteners.
dashboard said
Dec 13, 2012
I will use blue Loctite, I have a lifetime supply of the stuff. I'm concerned about exhaust manifolds and other hot areas, the mount adapters are right below the exhaust manifolds . I’m going to use the higher torque values.
Lost in the 60s said
Dec 13, 2012
dashboard wrote:
I will use blue Loctite, I have a lifetime supply of the stuff. I'm concerned about exhaust manifolds and other hot areas, the mount adapters are right below the exhaust manifolds . I’m going to use the higher torque values.
Aluminum expands much faster than steel from heat and the threads will lock on the bolts faster than a she dog....
Yes, torque values wet or dry. When using anti-seize thread lubricant should one use wet or dry torque values?
What bolts are you tightening that you are asking this question? Based on that would help me make a decision, but I typically don't change the setting when I use anti-seize on things.
From my days as a mechanic, all torque values were based on clean, lightly lubricated threads. Anti-sieze has always qualified as a lubricant to me. More important is the "clean" part. Rusty, dirty threads will affect the correct torque more than a lubricant.
However the product is called VersaChem ANTI-SEIZE THREAD LUBRICANT Type 13. I sent an email off the manufacture but have not heard back.
Yup, on low torque aluminum applications, it is recommended to use Lock-tite BLUE as a lubricant and to prevent loosening from vibration. Blue will release in the future with tools, Red requires heat.
I would torque them to 30 no matter what you put on them.
Aluminum expands much faster than steel from heat and the threads will lock on the bolts faster than a she dog....