I know where a 69 real SS with numbers matching 396 is that is for sale. The paint is good probably 7 - 8 on a scale of 1 - 10. The engine has 5500 miles on a good professional rebuild, interior probably about a 6 -7 tires and chrome are good. 4 speed with build sheet. No rust or dents. Runs drives pretty much just get in and go.
Daytona Yellow which is the original color. the want $10K or so.
Derek69SS said
Feb 3, 2012
Sounds like a bargain, especially for a #s matching car. Daytona yellow is kind of rare (and SS-only color)
Sounds like about a $15-18k car to me assuming it's not an L78.
SShink said
Feb 3, 2012
I'm with Derek, but I'd bump it to $18-20K since it is numbers matching and has the build sheet. The documentation can add a lot these days since the real ones are harder to find now.
Snag it if you can!
Tim H said
Feb 4, 2012
I have 4 project cars now so I am out of space and spare time. A friend of mine is thinking about buying it. I hope he does. I thought it was a good deal but 69's aren't 70's. Although I am really starting to prefer my 69 over my 70. If he decides not to buy it I'll let whoever may be interested in it know. It is not advertised but it is local.
Chris R said
Feb 4, 2012
I would say 15-20 is about right as well. If its in good physical condition, bump that up to low 20s just because of it being a 4 speed and a buildsheet. Sounds like a hell of a deal. Your friend would be foolish not to buy it. We all know these cars arent getting any cheaper.
Here is a 69SS, bench seat, 4 speed car I came across the other night. In a far less popular color in 69. The price is about ball park for a project like this. Priced at 8K. I paid half that for my 69 and it isnt as complete as this and needs twice the work. So IMO, this is about ball park for a good 69 project. Just for comparison purposes. For an extra 2 grand to get a real matching butternut car with a 4 speed and build sheet, I would be all over that.
If it's as decent as you describe, 10k is a steal. You could probably flip it for a decent profit. If I had funding and room, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
67ss said
Feb 4, 2012
I have a relative that is looking to buy a driver like that. If your buddy does not buy it would you mind passing the info along about it?
Thanks
jim larson said
Feb 4, 2012
The term numbers matching is used kind of freely. If original motor, trans, rear axel with POP and other documentation, and if its a l35, L34, or L78? You mention you know it is a real SS??? Build sheets available with what ever you want and aged to look real. Take an expert to know the correct front depending upon plant. Don't think build sheet identifys the original engine like the POP, only whether is is a L34,L35, L78.
Say a guy with a 65 impala at a show last year with a 427, that he claimed was a numbers matching 396???. I guess he didn't know enough to look at the casting number that was located on the bellhousing flange, when he bought it. Difference between a L35 and L78 probably as much as $10,000. Is that a repo POP, they are available. Re-stamped pad, corvette guys have been doing it for years. If everthing checks out a good deal.
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Tim H said
Feb 4, 2012
67ss wrote:
I have a relative that is looking to buy a driver like that. If your buddy does not buy it would you mind passing the info along about it?
Thanks
Will do. It looks like we're looking at it next Saturday. The owners are out of town starting today through late next week.
67ss said
Feb 4, 2012
Great, can you take a few pictures of it to post on the forum?
Lost in the 60s said
Feb 4, 2012
That would be a special car to restore. I like Daytona Yellow and there's NO doubt that's a real SS... If I had the coin, I would find a place to put it.
OscarZ said
Feb 4, 2012
That's a great find your friend made! If I was him and it's as nice as you say I would buy that car in a heartbeat!
Lost in the 60s said
Feb 5, 2012
jim larson wrote:
The term numbers matching is used kind of freely. If original motor, trans, rear axel with POP and other documentation, and if its a l35, L34, or L78? You mention you know it is a real SS??? Build sheets available with what ever you want and aged to look real. Take an expert to know the correct front depending upon plant. Don't think build sheet identifys the original engine like the POP, only whether is is a L34,L35, L78.
Say a guy with a 65 impala at a show last year with a 427, that he claimed was a numbers matching 396???. I guess he didn't know enough to look at the casting number that was located on the bellhousing flange, when he bought it. Difference between a L35 and L78 probably as much as $10,000. Is that a repo POP, they are available. Re-stamped pad, corvette guys have been doing it for years. If everthing checks out a good deal.
-- Edited by jim larson on Saturday 4th of February 2012 12:13:09 PM
-- Edited by jim larson on Saturday 4th of February 2012 12:17:40 PM
It's Daytona Yellow and if the cowl tag verifies that, it's a real SS. That color was only available on an SS that year. It will take more digging to get all the numbers to verify, but a real '69 SS that is a driver is worth the stated price all day long.
Chris R said
Feb 5, 2012
Even if it werent numbers matching. If its a decent driver. Its still worth that all day long. Especially when project SS cars in less desirable colors are going for only a few thousand less needing twice the work.
Tim H said
Feb 5, 2012
The car is a one owner and my friend is related to the owners in a semi distant way through his wife. the owners are in their late 60s maybe early 70s. they havent driven it much in the last 10 years or more. It is original and complete. All the paperwork is there. he was a vp at a larger local construction company. I am going just to give an opinion on it.
Tim H said
Feb 5, 2012
Part of the reason i wanted to ask without disclosing the relationship to the owned was because it seemed priced too low. I wanted to get your honest opinions. i appreciate them. If he buys it he will pay them the real value that it is worth. but if he doesn't buy it and they stay with their price it really needs to go to someone who won't just flip it.
SShink said
Feb 5, 2012
It still amazes me that these kind of cars are still sitting in someone's garage. I guess I need to expand how many I think are still out there...
Lost in the 60s said
Feb 5, 2012
Tim H wrote:
Part of the reason i wanted to ask without disclosing the relationship to the owned was because it seemed priced too low. I wanted to get your honest opinions. i appreciate them. If he buys it he will pay them the real value that it is worth. but if he doesn't buy it and they stay with their price it really needs to go to someone who won't just flip it.
Someone's going to end up with a rare prize. Wish it could be me. I don't sell much of what I acquire, much to my wife's dismay...
jim larson said
Feb 5, 2012
Mitch, cowl tags with correct rivets and what ever paint code you want are readily available. From what Tim says, it sounds like it could be the real deal. And like Tim, hope it doesn't go to a dealer. Here is one for a 66 flint plant. Looks like they only have a 69 baltimore plant tag.
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Chris R said
Feb 5, 2012
Tim H wrote:
Part of the reason i wanted to ask without disclosing the relationship to the owned was because it seemed priced too low. I wanted to get your honest opinions. i appreciate them. If he buys it he will pay them the real value that it is worth. but if he doesn't buy it and they stay with their price it really needs to go to someone who won't just flip it.
Exactly. When cars get priced that low. Which rarely, if ever, happens anymore. Its hard to find someone that wants it for what it is and not want to flip it because they can. Two thumbs up for your friend being willing to give them the real value. Now days, you cant trust anything, cowl tags, buildsheets and documentation are getting faked easier and easier. So when you find a car that is still owned by the original owner and shows all the documentation. You can buy it with far more confidence that what your buying is the real thing.
Bowtieman427 said
Feb 5, 2012
Hi Tim is a bench seat 4 speed 69 SS ? I spent the first 6 years of my life in a 69 SS 396 lighter green color and my parents painted black SS stipes on it use to take it to the drag strip all the time I remember watching it roar down the track. That was the car thattook me home from the hospital after I was born and the only car we had til I was 6. I was very privilaged. That is where my love for Chevelles stem from. Back then there were no car seats or seat belt laws. I rember getting to steer it once when it ran out of gas. I use to fly around in the back seat as it teared down the road. Dad use to work on it all the time and I sat under the hood with him pretending to fix something. They sold it when I was 6 and the guy they sold it to destroyed it in 2 weeks wrapping around a telephone pole. My dad to this day says he should of kept it. The only reason he sold it is it would only run well on Sunoco 260 and it was getting so expensive to drive and they need something different : ( He loved that car and so did I since I consider it the bench mark vs other Chevelles. The kid WOW factor is still there. Like I said I was very provilaged. So to me you could not put a price on a 69 396 SS Chevelle. They are awsome.
Tim H said
Feb 11, 2012
The car was just as described. Good shape some paint checking but not bad. Now there is a new owner. They are working out the final pricing but it appears since it is staying in the family it will probably be less than the price we thought. There was some friendly discussion on the price but the original owners are not in need of money so taking a fair market price was not something they wanted to entertain. I'll post pictures later. Nice car to see and drive. All the paperwork was there including the original sales slip. It has buckets but no console. which seemed strange but kind of cool. For now it is just going to get cleaned and driven.
Chris R said
Feb 11, 2012
Sounds cool. Pass the clubs info to him and see if he may be intrested in like minded people. Buckets and no console is actually common. Console and bucket seats were both seperate extra cost options. Seems the most common year for that is 69.
Lost in the 60s said
Feb 11, 2012
NICE, I actually prefer no console, as it takes up too much room.
I know where a 69 real SS with numbers matching 396 is that is for sale. The paint is good probably 7 - 8 on a scale of 1 - 10. The engine has 5500 miles on a good professional rebuild, interior probably about a 6 -7 tires and chrome are good. 4 speed with build sheet. No rust or dents. Runs drives pretty much just get in and go.
Daytona Yellow which is the original color. the want $10K or so.
Sounds like about a $15-18k car to me assuming it's not an L78.
I'm with Derek, but I'd bump it to $18-20K since it is numbers matching and has the build sheet. The documentation can add a lot these days since the real ones are harder to find now.
Snag it if you can!
I would say 15-20 is about right as well. If its in good physical condition, bump that up to low 20s just because of it being a 4 speed and a buildsheet. Sounds like a hell of a deal. Your friend would be foolish not to buy it. We all know these cars arent getting any cheaper.
Here is a 69SS, bench seat, 4 speed car I came across the other night. In a far less popular color in 69. The price is about ball park for a project like this. Priced at 8K. I paid half that for my 69 and it isnt as complete as this and needs twice the work. So IMO, this is about ball park for a good 69 project. Just for comparison purposes. For an extra 2 grand to get a real matching butternut car with a 4 speed and build sheet, I would be all over that.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/2820018270.html
If it's as decent as you describe, 10k is a steal. You could probably flip it for a decent profit. If I had funding and room, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I have a relative that is looking to buy a driver like that. If your buddy does not buy it would you mind passing the info along about it?
Thanks
The term numbers matching is used kind of freely. If original motor, trans, rear axel with POP and other documentation, and if its a l35, L34, or L78? You mention you know it is a real SS??? Build sheets available with what ever you want and aged to look real. Take an expert to know the correct front depending upon plant. Don't think build sheet identifys the original engine like the POP, only whether is is a L34,L35, L78.
Say a guy with a 65 impala at a show last year with a 427, that he claimed was a numbers matching 396???. I guess he didn't know enough to look at the casting number that was located on the bellhousing flange, when he bought it. Difference between a L35 and L78 probably as much as $10,000. Is that a repo POP, they are available. Re-stamped pad, corvette guys have been doing it for years. If everthing checks out a good deal.
-- Edited by jim larson on Saturday 4th of February 2012 12:13:09 PM
-- Edited by jim larson on Saturday 4th of February 2012 12:17:40 PM
Will do. It looks like we're looking at it next Saturday. The owners are out of town starting today through late next week.
Great, can you take a few pictures of it to post on the forum?
That would be a special car to restore. I like Daytona Yellow and there's NO doubt that's a real SS...
If I had the coin, I would find a place to put it.
That's a great find your friend made! If I was him and it's as nice as you say I would buy that car in a heartbeat!
Even if it werent numbers matching. If its a decent driver. Its still worth that all day long. Especially when project SS cars in less desirable colors are going for only a few thousand less needing twice the work.
It still amazes me that these kind of cars are still sitting in someone's garage. I guess I need to expand how many I think are still out there...
Mitch, cowl tags with correct rivets and what ever paint code you want are readily available. From what Tim says, it sounds like it could be the real deal. And like Tim, hope it doesn't go to a dealer. Here is one for a 66 flint plant. Looks like they only have a 69 baltimore plant tag.
http://www.trimtags.com/imagegallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pid=7#top_display_media
Looks like you can have them made to order If you have a sample for the plant you want it to come from. ($235)
http://www.trimtags.com/ordering.html
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-- Edited by jim larson on Sunday 5th of February 2012 08:56:24 AM
-- Edited by jim larson on Sunday 5th of February 2012 08:56:57 AM
-- Edited by jim larson on Sunday 5th of February 2012 08:58:09 AM
Exactly. When cars get priced that low. Which rarely, if ever, happens anymore. Its hard to find someone that wants it for what it is and not want to flip it because they can. Two thumbs up for your friend being willing to give them the real value. Now days, you cant trust anything, cowl tags, buildsheets and documentation are getting faked easier and easier. So when you find a car that is still owned by the original owner and shows all the documentation. You can buy it with far more confidence that what your buying is the real thing.
My dad to this day says he should of kept it. The only reason he sold it is it would only run well on Sunoco 260 and it was getting so expensive to drive and they need something different : (
He loved that car and so did I since I consider it the bench mark vs other Chevelles. The kid WOW factor is still there. Like I said I was very provilaged. So to me you could not put a price on a 69 396 SS Chevelle. They are awsome.
Sounds cool. Pass the clubs info to him and see if he may be intrested in like minded people. Buckets and no console is actually common. Console and bucket seats were both seperate extra cost options. Seems the most common year for that is 69.
NICE, I actually prefer no console, as it takes up too much room.