Has anyone used it and if so what did you think of it? I would like to use it on the roof of my cars before the headliners go in.
Thanks
Dan Williams said
Jan 14, 2012
Derek used it to paint the underside of his car. I remember him saying something about it being real hard to wash and keep clean. Probably would work great for what you are looking at.
Lost in the 60s said
Jan 14, 2012
Tim, I mentioned it because of the problems I've read about the mats coming loose from sun heat and falling on the headliner. I haven't used it but would like to try it when I am ready to replace one of my headliners. The original fiberglass holds moisture and can cause rust. This seems like a good alternative with better coverage and, maybe, results.
Derek69SS said
Jan 15, 2012
I used it, but honestly can't say how much it helped with noise, since I changed everything under the car at the same time (all suspension, engine, exhaust, etc all were changed) so its effectiveness can't really be compared to what it was like before.
I used it as an "undercoat" but it's not ideal for this use... too soft, so it marks up easy, and its dull finish is hard to wipe clean.
-- Edited by Derek69SS on Sunday 15th of January 2012 10:33:55 AM
Chris R said
Jan 15, 2012
I dont think Lizard Skin is a rust preventative so you would also have to apply a layer of rust preventative paint first before putting the skin on.
Lost in the 60s said
Jan 15, 2012
Chris R wrote:
I dont think Lizard Skin is a rust preventative so you would also have to apply a layer of rust preventative paint first before putting the skin on.
Their website claims it will PREVENT future rust but not that it will stop any existing. In fact, it states NOT to use it as a rust encapsulator. I plan to use my Eastwood Converter, as I do on ALL bare surfaces before any paint or undercoating.
-- Edited by Lost in the 60s on Sunday 15th of January 2012 11:41:40 AM
Dave Seitz said
Jan 15, 2012
Here is an additive to make your own Lizard Skin type coating.
-- Edited by Dave Seitz on Sunday 15th of January 2012 09:17:45 PM
Tim H said
Jan 15, 2012
Lost in the 60s wrote:
Chris R wrote:
I dont think Lizard Skin is a rust preventative so you would also have to apply a layer of rust preventative paint first before putting the skin on.
Their website claims it will PREVENT future rust but not that it will stop any existing. In fact, it states NOT to use it as a rust encapsulator. I plan to use my Eastwood Converter, as I do on ALL bare surfaces before any paint or undercoating.
-- Edited by Lost in the 60s on Sunday 15th of January 2012 11:41:40 AM
I agree. I have coated most of it and will being doing the rest with POR15 first. I do know of a car that had Fatmat on the roof that came off in the sun. Not cool. Luckly it wasn't a car I did.
Derek has any of it came off? That would be my other concern.
Thanks everyone for the input
Tim H said
Jan 15, 2012
Dave Seitz wrote:
Here is an additive to make your own Lizard Skin type coating.
-- Edited by Dave Seitz on Sunday 15th of January 2012 09:17:45 PM
Wow I would have to be a chemist to understand all that. I'm not smart enough for it.
Dave Seitz said
Jan 15, 2012
Tim these are a hollow bead that act as a insulation of sorts. These stay suspended in the carrier making it kind of a thin spray on bubble wrap if you follow me. They are used in some polyester resins fiberglass applications to lighten the end product slightly with minimal loss of strength being so small.
Tim H said
Jan 15, 2012
Dave Seitz wrote:
Tim these are a hollow bead that act as a insulation of sorts. These stay suspended in the carrier making it kind of a thin spray on bubble wrap if you follow me. They are used in some polyester resins fiberglass applications to lighten the end product slightly with minimal loss of strength being so small.
Ok I'm picking up what you are laying down. I was also looking at foam sound proofing like in a sound studio.
Derek69SS said
Jan 15, 2012
Tim H wrote:Derek has any of it came off? That would be my other concern.
Only where I got violent with my BFH to clearance some things...
Tim H said
Jan 15, 2012
Derek69SS wrote:
Tim H wrote:Derek has any of it came off? That would be my other concern.
Only where I got violent with my BFH to clearance some things...
Is that BFH calibrated?
Dave Seitz said
Jan 16, 2012
You could actually mix the microspheres in with POR15. I do not know how it would behave after but jsut an idea. A friend of mine sprays Vinyl Top adhesive on areas to make it stick better. Rob had said some of the mat he has used as a sound deadner was the same as the rubber membrane for roofing only with foil.
This product was brought up in Dashboard's post.
Has anyone used it and if so what did you think of it? I would like to use it on the roof of my cars before the headliners go in.
Thanks
Tim, I mentioned it because of the problems I've read about the mats coming loose from sun heat and falling on the headliner. I haven't used it but would like to try it when I am ready to replace one of my headliners. The original fiberglass holds moisture and can cause rust. This seems like a good alternative with better coverage and, maybe, results.
I used it, but honestly can't say how much it helped with noise, since I changed everything under the car at the same time (all suspension, engine, exhaust, etc all were changed) so its effectiveness can't really be compared to what it was like before.
I used it as an "undercoat" but it's not ideal for this use... too soft, so it marks up easy, and its dull finish is hard to wipe clean.
-- Edited by Derek69SS on Sunday 15th of January 2012 10:33:55 AM
I dont think Lizard Skin is a rust preventative so you would also have to apply a layer of rust preventative paint first before putting the skin on.
-- Edited by Lost in the 60s on Sunday 15th of January 2012 11:41:40 AM
Here is an additive to make your own Lizard Skin type coating.
http://www.cospheric-microspheres.com/Custom_Property_Polymer_Microspheres_s/4.htm
-- Edited by Dave Seitz on Sunday 15th of January 2012 09:17:45 PM
I agree. I have coated most of it and will being doing the rest with POR15 first. I do know of a car that had Fatmat on the roof that came off in the sun. Not cool. Luckly it wasn't a car I did.
Derek has any of it came off? That would be my other concern.
Thanks everyone for the input
Wow I would have to be a chemist to understand all that. I'm not smart enough for it.
Ok I'm picking up what you are laying down. I was also looking at foam sound proofing like in a sound studio.
Only where I got violent with my BFH to clearance some things...
Is that BFH calibrated?