laying a new above ground pool base this week. Made the lower frame and the sand is getting delivered tomorrow. It's 18' across and an octagon shape. We're getting over 4 yards, I wonder how many wheelbarrow laods that will be......?
Oh yeah, as motivation, it's going to block the Chevelle in the garage until it's all moved.
Bowtieman427 said
May 16, 2011
each yard is 27 ft^3 I think of dry sand 1 yd^3 is 2700#. you are getting 4.5yd^3 x 2700# =12150# of sand If you figure on 2ft^3 or 200# per wheel barral load it would be 61 trips.
What are the demetions of your wheel barral and how strong are you ? 1ft^3 of dry sand is about 100# figured 100-200# per load wheel barral load 61min-120max trips If you can handle or load more adjust THESE ARE ALL quick off head approx values. NO Research or hard facts. I am pretty sure sand is about 100# per 1ft^3
want to know time to do the job figure with wheel barral you can move about 1mph when walking then figure load and unload time. wha tis the distanc eyou need ot travel in feet.
jim larson said
May 17, 2011
thats about 225.5 sq feet for the octagon only . Whats the dept? Using a dept of 4 ", 4.5 cu yards will cover approximately 365 sq ft.
Dave Seitz said
May 17, 2011
About 1/2 a truck load if it has a 12 yard box so if you asked for 5 -6 yards you will just abouy have enough. The kids sand box is a full truck and it was alot of shoveling.
SShink said
May 17, 2011
I had 4 yards of dirt to move once from the front of the house to the back yard, and I hired a landscape guy that had a small stand on skid steer with a bucket and he had it all moved in 1 hour. Best $60 I spent on the whole project.
You can also rent one from Home Depot. Toro makes one called the Dingo that works great.
ron fuller said
May 17, 2011
Ace hardware on foley and coon rapids blvd rents the toro dingo. You will save alot of time. Remember you are allways strong in the beginning and weak in the end!
John D said
May 17, 2011
2nd and 3rd on the "Dingo"!! Very easy to operate, and a hard working little machine. You'll need something to tow it home with though - small pickup or SUV minimum.
Used one to remove about 30 old RR ties and excavate a new walkway/entry into the tuckunder garage at the lake. Saved HOURS and a month at the chiropracter.
bowtie said
May 17, 2011
Unfortunately, I can't tow one, also can't go through the gate with it. Wheelbarrow it is. I'm strong enough to know that it will take about 5 beers tonight and whatever tomorrow to finish. I need the exercise.
Unfortunately, the driver counldn't understand the phrase "Put it on the far right side of the driveway", so it is now blocking 2 garage doors. The red car ain't going anywhere til it's done I guess. Luckily my Impala was already out and the wife's Malibu can squeeze by on the left.
bowtie said
May 17, 2011
Here's where I'm at:
20 shovels full about fills the wheel barrow to just about spilling over (plus comfortably moving it).
Each trip is 65 paces each way
20 loads is about 1/3 of what I need
20 loads is about 1/3 of the pile
Oh yeah, it's wet after about the 1st inch in.
Good figuring there Bowtieman! Who says you don't ever need math after school?
BTW: My 2nd grader figured out how many shovels full 17 trips was when I was to that point. I don't think we were even to multiplication at that point when I was in school.
Lost in the 60s said
May 17, 2011
Jim's guestimate on weight is very close. General weight for sand is 3,000# per yard. I'm betting he can get 250# per wheel barrow load for the first dozen and decrease from there..... 4.5 yards would look like an ant hill in my end dump trailer. I haul 16-17 yards. The bucket on the Cat 980 we load with holds 6 yards....
You can do it, Bryan.....
dashboard said
May 17, 2011
B,
Just be sure to keep it dry, it's a lot more work if it gets wet.
Would it be possible to temporarily move the fence? Might not be the last time you need to get something oversize back there.
K
bowtie said
May 17, 2011
Nah, I did this 20 loads in an hour. Ran out of light and had to put the kids to bed. I would have done more, but the site wasn't ready, I had to level out a 3" drop over 18' in 2 directions before laying the sand. That took about an hour of shoveling and raking first.
I don't mind to work, my back actually feels better now than after a day at work, I think it stretched out some.
dashboard said
May 17, 2011
Take two aspirin before you go to bed tonight.
Lost in the 60s said
May 17, 2011
bowtie wrote:
Nah, I did this 20 loads in an hour. Ran out of light and had to put the kids to bed. I would have done more, but the site wasn't ready, I had to level out a 3" drop over 18' in 2 directions before laying the sand. That took about an hour of shoveling and raking first.
I don't mind to work, my back actually feels better now than after a day at work, I think it stretched out some.
I wanna hear how it feels in the morning when you need to roll out of bed onto your hands and knees to get up....
bowtie said
May 17, 2011
I'll let you know in 8 hours.
bowtie said
May 18, 2011
Nope, still good. Been up for a wil and my back actually feels better than normal.
Let's see what tomorrow brings, usually it's 2 days for the aches after a hard workout, plus I plan on finishing the sand today too.
Lost in the 60s said
May 18, 2011
bowtie wrote:
Nope, still good. Been up for a wil and my back actually feels better than normal.
Let's see what tomorrow brings, usually it's 2 days for the aches after a hard workout, plus I plan on finishing the sand today too.
Must be your "young" age....
bowtie said
May 18, 2011
Got back at it after dinner, started at 6. Got done at 8:15. It's all moved, somewhat compacted, and leveled--ready to settle over the weekend and releveled again before putting the pool up.
I did cheat a little. My wife offered to fill the wheelbarrow after about 15 trips tonight. Kept me more fresh so I could go faster.
I don't know what was worse-moving it all or leveling it out with the steel rake.
Lost in the 60s said
May 18, 2011
You're an animal. I know who to call next time I need fill moved in my yard.......
bowtie said
May 18, 2011
Yeah, someone with a bobcat.
I moved rock and then gravel a couple years back. Landscaping is all labor. I'm cheap so I do it myslef. Too bad my wife can't decide on what the end result should look like yet.
bowtie said
May 20, 2011
now I let the rain help compact it over the weekend and let it settle, then level it out.
laying a new above ground pool base this week. Made the lower frame and the sand is getting delivered tomorrow. It's 18' across and an octagon shape. We're getting over 4 yards, I wonder how many wheelbarrow laods that will be......?
Oh yeah, as motivation, it's going to block the Chevelle in the garage until it's all moved.
If you figure on 2ft^3 or 200# per wheel barral load it would be 61 trips.
What are the demetions of your wheel barral and how strong are you ?
1ft^3 of dry sand is about 100#
figured 100-200# per load wheel barral load 61min-120max trips
If you can handle or load more adjust
THESE ARE ALL quick off head approx values. NO Research or hard facts. I am pretty sure sand is about 100# per 1ft^3
want to know time to do the job figure with wheel barral you can move about 1mph when walking then figure load and unload time. wha tis the distanc eyou need ot travel in feet.
I had 4 yards of dirt to move once from the front of the house to the back yard, and I hired a landscape guy that had a small stand on skid steer with a bucket and he had it all moved in 1 hour. Best $60 I spent on the whole project.
You can also rent one from Home Depot. Toro makes one called the Dingo that works great.
Used one to remove about 30 old RR ties and excavate a new walkway/entry into the tuckunder garage at the lake. Saved HOURS and a month at the chiropracter.
Unfortunately, I can't tow one, also can't go through the gate with it. Wheelbarrow it is. I'm strong enough to know that it will take about 5 beers tonight and whatever tomorrow to finish. I need the exercise.
Unfortunately, the driver counldn't understand the phrase "Put it on the far right side of the driveway", so it is now blocking 2 garage doors. The red car ain't going anywhere til it's done I guess. Luckily my Impala was already out and the wife's Malibu can squeeze by on the left.
20 shovels full about fills the wheel barrow to just about spilling over (plus comfortably moving it).
Each trip is 65 paces each way
20 loads is about 1/3 of what I need
20 loads is about 1/3 of the pile
Oh yeah, it's wet after about the 1st inch in.
Good figuring there Bowtieman! Who says you don't ever need math after school?
BTW: My 2nd grader figured out how many shovels full 17 trips was when I was to that point. I don't think we were even to multiplication at that point when I was in school.
Jim's guestimate on weight is very close. General weight for sand is 3,000# per yard. I'm betting he can get 250# per wheel barrow load for the first dozen and decrease from there.....
4.5 yards would look like an ant hill in my end dump trailer. I haul 16-17 yards. The bucket on the Cat 980 we load with holds 6 yards....
You can do it, Bryan.....
B,
Just be sure to keep it dry, it's a lot more work if it gets wet.
Would it be possible to temporarily move the fence? Might not be the last time you need to get something oversize back there.
K
I don't mind to work, my back actually feels better now than after a day at work, I think it stretched out some.
Take two aspirin before you go to bed tonight.
Let's see what tomorrow brings, usually it's 2 days for the aches after a hard workout, plus I plan on finishing the sand today too.
Must be your "young" age....
I did cheat a little. My wife offered to fill the wheelbarrow after about 15 trips tonight. Kept me more fresh so I could go faster.
I don't know what was worse-moving it all or leveling it out with the steel rake.
You're an animal. I know who to call next time I need fill moved in my yard.......
I moved rock and then gravel a couple years back. Landscaping is all labor. I'm cheap so I do it myslef. Too bad my wife can't decide on what the end result should look like yet.
now I let the rain help compact it over the weekend and let it settle, then level it out.