Tim, I love everything about this build... color, COPO equipment, build quality, etc.
I like to hot rod my own stuff, but the cars like this one are my favorite ones to look at.
Tim H said
Mar 29, 2012
Thanks Derek.
I love Hot Rods. In fact last month when a few of the guys were over I showed that what I would like to do after the Chevelles. There is a 1934 Plymouth 2 door sedan that I have my eye on.
On the Chevelles the more I get into doing this the more details come out and the more I want to get it as right as possible. From the SS wheels having 3 colors of paint to the 5 colors on the steering box, date coded glass etc. it just grows and grows.
I hope it all turns out the way I want it too but I'll take whatever it is in the end.
I put a deadline on this one to be done by May 6th and June 3rd for the 70. If I have to take longer to get them right I will but I really want to have one to drive for a while. I do have to help get the race car finished and a Shovelhead to freshen up so we can sell it this next month and of course a grandson to play with.
Chris,
I just have always used FatMat. I look for the thickest product out there and get it. FatMat has been one of the thicker ones and is priced competitively. I put two layers on the firewall and floors except under the seats.
Thanks to everyone for the encouragement and support.
Lost in the 60s said
Mar 30, 2012
I have a documented '70 SS 396 that needs meticulous attention like that. TH400, buckets, console, A/C, stereo radio and POWER door locks. Look them up and see how many were installed. Fathom Blue on Black. Very early build.....3rd week of September, 1969.
John D said
Mar 30, 2012
Tim - with the trouble & efforts of accuracy, the documentation of the build, and the work in progress photo's... this is perfect newsletter material!
Please consider it, and get with Jeff S. about doing a write-up!!
Tim H said
Mar 30, 2012
Lost in the 60s wrote:
I have a documented '70 SS 396 that needs meticulous attention like that. TH400, buckets, console, A/C, stereo radio and POWER door locks. Look them up and see how many were installed. Fathom Blue on Black. Very early build.....3rd week of September, 1969.
Nice car Mitch and yes it sure is rare.
Now that's a car I could get into restoring.
Tim H said
Mar 30, 2012
John D wrote:
Tim - with the trouble & efforts of accuracy, the documentation of the build, and the work in progress photo's... this is perfect newsletter material!
Please consider it, and get with Jeff S. about doing a write-up!!
Oh I'd have no problem with that. The only thing is it may be old news if I keep filling the site up with all the junk I've been posting about it.
But if Jeff wants to do it I'm in.
Tim H said
Mar 31, 2012
I'm going to bore the heck out of you guys with this post. Finished up the heater this morning. Blasted all the little parts last night and painted them. Previous post hows the before and during of the boxes. Had to stop for lunch.. but now back to work.
Did that with the '66 last winter. Getting the foam on the flapper door is a real treat.
You are more meticulous than me. Where did you find the correct color for the 2 core brackets ? I just painted mine a color I had here...Charcoal Grey.
Tim H said
Apr 1, 2012
Lost in the 60s wrote:
Did that with the '66 last winter. Getting the foam on the flapper door is a real treat.
You are more meticulous than me. Where did you find the correct color for the 2 core brackets ? I just painted mine a color I had here...Charcoal Grey.
I was going to use a mix John D suggested until my airbrush took a dump. I was at Menards and found this.
While cleaning the speedometer I found a date stamped on the back of it. December 14 1968. Got the heater in and did a bunch of detailing of little parts. Here are a couple.
I was going to use a mix John D suggested until my airbrush took a dump. I was at Menards and found this.
Nice ! I'll have to get a can and put it on the shelf. I'll never remember what it is when I actually need it...
I used a lot of the 2X Satin Clear in the engine compartment and interior of the '66 over the paint to help prevent scratches. It goes on very thick but flashes quickly and doesn't run as easily as it seems it would. Nice satin sheen without glare or reflection.
Kinda crazy that we detail parts that no one will ever see again. I painted my vent flaps too and they are hidden from view behind the grilles...
John D said
Apr 1, 2012
It's not really "detailing"... it's part of the reconditioning/restoration to "as new" condition. They'll function as new parts - I look at it as a PM (periodic maintenance) that's about 40 years overdue!
Tim H said
Apr 1, 2012
Lost in the 60s wrote:
Kinda crazy that we detail parts that no one will ever see again. I painted my vent flaps too and they are hidden from view behind the grilles...
I was thinking the same thing when I was hand painting the rivets on the cowl flaps but I would agree with John on the "reconditioning/restoration to "as new" condition"
I figure why not do as much as I can. Every once in a while I have to back up and do something I forgot like painting the backside of the tail light housings because they protrude into the trunk and they can be seen when you look in the trunk. I had the housings in and took them back out to paint them and the nuts that hold them in.
Guess I'm a bit nuts
Tim H said
Apr 2, 2012
OscarZ wrote:
Congrats Tim! I'm sure your current projects would fare just as well!
Thanks. We try to get better with each car.
It did feel good to hear that it won the two categories it was eligible for.
-- Edited by Tim H on Monday 2nd of April 2012 12:28:30 PM
Tim H said
Apr 2, 2012
Non Chevelle related but the 67 Camaro we restored last year won first place in two catagories at Motorhead Madness (aka World of Wheels) in Duluth. It won 1st place for all cars 1958 to 1968 and for all years Restored Class. It was on the news Friday night. There is also a magazine who will be doing a story on it. There were about 150 cars at the show.
OscarZ said
Apr 2, 2012
Congrats Tim! I'm sure your current projects would fare just as well!
Tim H said
Apr 2, 2012
I removed the old seat covers and blasted the frames then shot them in epoxy. I'll paint the seat frames and springs in a silver color tomorrow then install the burlap, cotton batting and seat covers. I came to realize that there are a gazillion hog rings in the seats and that removing them will give you blisters.
I also fixed the original dash with a epoxy plastic.
Got the cam degreed in the 505 yesterday it's within a a degree of spec. Ran a tap through all the holes in the 427. Got all the engine parts for the 427 including the solid cam. Will be honing it and decking it in the next week so it can start going together. I really hope to beat the CAC count down meter but ya never know...
Finally got to see Gearlubes Camaro on Sunday. I have to say it sure is nice and the color really pops! Nice car Tom
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 3rd of April 2012 07:09:41 AM
Non Chevelle related but the 67 Camaro we restored last year won first place in two catagories at Motorhead Madness (aka World of Wheels) in Duluth. It won 1st place for all cars 1958 to 1968 and for all years Restored Class. It was on the news Friday night. There is also a magazine who will be doing a story on it. There were about 150 cars at the show.
Dang, I was thinking of running up to that show and then forgot all about it.... With the crappy weather Saturday, it would've been a perfect time.
Congrats on the the prizes, after all, you did the work...
Tim H said
Apr 3, 2012
Lost in the 60s wrote:
Dang, I was thinking of running up to that show and then forgot all about it.... With the crappy weather Saturday, it would've been a perfect time.
Congrats on the the prizes, after all, you did the work...
Thanks Mitch. It is always encourging to hear comments from others who appreciate the work and accomplishments that get done.
Tim H said
Apr 3, 2012
Lost in the 60s wrote:
After watching a pro tear down and reassemble a couple seats, I know I won't be doing that myself. Lots of work and tricks to getting them to look right.
I'm just a glutten for punishment I guess. I want to see how much of this car I can do myself. Worst I can do is mess it up and have someone fix it.
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 3rd of April 2012 10:28:25 PM
After watching a pro tear down and reassemble a couple seats, I know I won't be doing that myself. Lots of work and tricks to getting them to look right.
Tim H said
Apr 4, 2012
Not sure how to post a link but if you are intrested here is video from the Duluth Motorhead Madness Show of the Camaro we did.
After watching a pro tear down and reassemble a couple seats, I know I won't be doing that myself. Lots of work and tricks to getting them to look right.
I'm just a glutten for punishment I guess. I want to see how much of this car I can do myself. Worst I can do is mess it up and have someone fix it.
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 3rd of April 2012 10:28:25 PM
You're right, having someone pull it back apart and redo it isn't the end of the world.
Lost in the 60s said
Apr 5, 2012
Tim H wrote:
Not sure how to post a link but if you are intrested here is video from the Duluth Motorhead Madness Show of the Camaro we did.
Great work Tim! Can't wait to see/hear this one on the road. I feel sorry for the rear tires already...
Tim H said
Apr 6, 2012
Scott Parkhurst wrote:
Great work Tim! Can't wait to see/hear this one on the road. I feel sorry for the rear tires already...
Thanks Scott.
It will be getting F70 14 polyglass tires eventually. But my wife's vette has MT Street / Strip tires that I will "borrow" once in a while when she's not around to find out
Tim H said
May 15, 2012
Well after about 5 weeks of pulling off the Chevelles to work on race cars, a start up business and many other projects I finally am back at it. Painting the 70 in the next day or so and putting the 69 together are back on my radar. I'll post pictures as I go.
Got a nice 12 bolt dated coded housing from Derek last weekend and got to look at some neat cars.
So Dave a new buffer is back in action.
I think I'll have a dyno session this week or very early next on the 427. We balanced it and blue printed it. It is a solid lifter cam and has all the parts that the COPO would have except bumped the cam a little... With Bryan's help on the part numbers I found a NOS set of correct head bolts.
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 15th of May 2012 10:02:49 PM
Tim H said
May 18, 2012
Dyno on the 427 was today. 500HP dead on the nuts and 460 plus on torque. Looking forward to the dyno on the 505 next.
Lost in the 60s said
May 18, 2012
Tim H wrote:
Dyno on the 427 was today. 500HP dead on the nuts and 460 plus on torque. Looking forward to the dyno on the 505 next.
I don't think you're going to want those skinny polyglass tires on there. It will look like a dog chasing it's tail when you stick your foot in it....
Tim H said
May 18, 2012
Lost in the 60s wrote:
Tim H wrote:
Dyno on the 427 was today. 500HP dead on the nuts and 460 plus on torque. Looking forward to the dyno on the 505 next.
I don't think you're going to want those skinny polyglass tires on there. It will look like a dog chasing it's tail when you stick your foot in it....
I don't think it will be a problem cause it will have to spin both tires with the posi in it.
I have a second set of SS rims with daily driving tires T/A's.
Picked up the engine and paperwork. Correction 502.2 HP. Stock Holley carb.
Tim H said
May 19, 2012
before and after a little excitement with one of my kids I got some work done on the rearend I got from Derek. Should get some guts in it, new bushings and brakes this week.
-- Edited by Tim H on Saturday 19th of May 2012 03:30:01 PM
I think the real rewarding part is how much they enjoy working or spending time with dad or granddad around cars.
Derek69SS wrote:
If your "help" is anything like mine, every job takes twice as long while being "helped" but it sure does make the work more fun!
Derek, in thirty years your son is going to be saying the same thing
…………………..about you!
-- Edited by dashboard on Monday 21st of May 2012 03:43:32 PM
Tim H said
May 21, 2012
dashboard wrote:
Is this the new Chevelle guy?
I don't actually do any of the work on these cars he does it all. He likes convertibles but will work on hard tops with a little pleading.
SShink said
May 21, 2012
Tim, looking good!
Looks like the Grandson is pitching in, but he must be a lefty the way he's holding the screw driver.
Derek69SS said
May 21, 2012
If your "help" is anything like mine, every job takes twice as long while being "helped" but it sure does make the work more fun!
Tim H said
May 23, 2012
It sure does make it more fun.. every once in a while it would be better if he wasn’t there when I want to use the “correct” terminology for some of the things I am working on like $%#* and *&%{}#*.
He always wants to help but he wants everything to be painted red or black..
"Derek, in thirty years your son is going to be saying the same thing
…………………..about you! "
Heck when they are 15 they say things like that.
Lost in the 60s said
May 24, 2012
Tim H wrote:
He always wants to help but he wants everything to be painted red or black..
Pops, there is NO WAY I'm parking next to you if you bring it to North St. Paul since that is so bitchin!!!
I like seeing that you put on the air pump and the license plate is cool too.
You've come a long way in a short period of time. Seems like it was just a month ago when we stopped over and saw it in fresh paint! There is some true talent in this club, and I'm proud to be part of it.
Lost in the 60s said
Jun 26, 2012
Looks like it should be ready for No St Paul on Friday .....
I'm gonna die of jealousy...
Tim H said
Jun 26, 2012
Thanks guys. I have a lot to do yet so it will be a push. I have to upholster the seats, door glass, interior, install the 12 bolt, rear brakes and a bunch of other stuff. At least I have the week off of work so I can try and get it done and thank goodness for AC in the shop.
Placed one last order (famous last words) with NPD today so I should have that stuff tomorrow.
I'm trying but I ain't no John D miracle worker.
Tim H said
Jun 26, 2012
SShink wrote:
Sounds like the bat signal is out for retired club members to stop over and give you a hand!
I might be able to stop by tonight or tomorrow night if you want a hand. If not, I understand too as I'd be nervous working on something that nice!
Sent you a PM. I may turn the Batlight on tomorrow...
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 26th of June 2012 12:24:14 PM
SShink said
Jun 26, 2012
Sounds like the bat signal is out for retired club members to stop over and give you a hand!
I might be able to stop by tonight or tomorrow night if you want a hand. If not, I understand too as I'd be nervous working on something that nice!
Tim H said
Jun 30, 2012
I tried but failed to get done for NSP, I had a shifter issue, wrong one and I need to shorten the driveshaft.
I have to keep telling myself not to cut corners trying to hurry the project along as far as finishing the little pieces. I;ve refinished abiut every nut and bolt from the start and I want to be sure to get them all done.
I have the interior to finish, front turn signals and a few pieces of trim to install. That's about it but it seems I always find another little thing that needs to be done.
I was installing the door glass the other day and thought about Dashboard when I removed the bolts that hold the glass to the tracks.
I like to hot rod my own stuff, but the cars like this one are my favorite ones to look at.
I love Hot Rods. In fact last month when a few of the guys were over I showed that what I would like to do after the Chevelles. There is a 1934 Plymouth 2 door sedan that I have my eye on.
On the Chevelles the more I get into doing this the more details come out and the more I want to get it as right as possible. From the SS wheels having 3 colors of paint to the 5 colors on the steering box, date coded glass etc. it just grows and grows.
I hope it all turns out the way I want it too but I'll take whatever it is in the end.
I put a deadline on this one to be done by May 6th and June 3rd for the 70. If I have to take longer to get them right I will but I really want to have one to drive for a while. I do have to help get the race car finished and a Shovelhead to freshen up so we can sell it this next month and of course a grandson to play with.
Chris,
I just have always used FatMat. I look for the thickest product out there and get it. FatMat has been one of the thicker ones and is priced competitively. I put two layers on the firewall and floors except under the seats.
Thanks to everyone for the encouragement and support.
I have a documented '70 SS 396 that needs meticulous attention like that. TH400, buckets, console, A/C, stereo radio and POWER door locks. Look them up and see how many were installed. Fathom Blue on Black. Very early build.....3rd week of September, 1969.
Please consider it, and get with Jeff S. about doing a write-up!!
Nice car Mitch and yes it sure is rare.
Now that's a car I could get into restoring.
Oh I'd have no problem with that. The only thing is it may be old news if I keep filling the site up with all the junk I've been posting about it.
But if Jeff wants to do it I'm in.
I'm going to bore the heck out of you guys with this post. Finished up the heater this morning. Blasted all the little parts last night and painted them. Previous post hows the before and during of the boxes. Had to stop for lunch.. but now back to work.
Did that with the '66 last winter. Getting the foam on the flapper door is a real treat.
You are more meticulous than me. Where did you find the correct color for the 2 core brackets ? I just painted mine a color I had here...Charcoal Grey.
I was going to use a mix John D suggested until my airbrush took a dump. I was at Menards and found this.
While cleaning the speedometer I found a date stamped on the back of it. December 14 1968. Got the heater in and did a bunch of detailing of little parts. Here are a couple.
Engine day tomorrow.
I was thinking the same thing when I was hand painting the rivets on the cowl flaps but I would agree with John on the "reconditioning/restoration to "as new" condition"
I figure why not do as much as I can. Every once in a while I have to back up and do something I forgot like painting the backside of the tail light housings because they protrude into the trunk and they can be seen when you look in the trunk. I had the housings in and took them back out to paint them and the nuts that hold them in.
Guess I'm a bit nuts
Thanks. We try to get better with each car.
It did feel good to hear that it won the two categories it was eligible for.
-- Edited by Tim H on Monday 2nd of April 2012 12:28:30 PM
Congrats Tim! I'm sure your current projects would fare just as well!
I removed the old seat covers and blasted the frames then shot them in epoxy. I'll paint the seat frames and springs in a silver color tomorrow then install the burlap, cotton batting and seat covers. I came to realize that there are a gazillion hog rings in the seats and that removing them will give you blisters.
I also fixed the original dash with a epoxy plastic.
Got the cam degreed in the 505 yesterday it's within a a degree of spec. Ran a tap through all the holes in the 427. Got all the engine parts for the 427 including the solid cam. Will be honing it and decking it in the next week so it can start going together. I really hope to beat the CAC count down meter but ya never know...
Finally got to see Gearlubes Camaro on Sunday. I have to say it sure is nice and the color really pops! Nice car Tom
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 3rd of April 2012 07:09:41 AM
Thanks Mitch. It is always encourging to hear comments from others who appreciate the work and accomplishments that get done.
I'm just a glutten for punishment I guess. I want to see how much of this car I can do myself. Worst I can do is mess it up and have someone fix it.
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 3rd of April 2012 10:28:25 PM
After watching a pro tear down and reassemble a couple seats, I know I won't be doing that myself. Lots of work and tricks to getting them to look right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlQu8IS80fw&context=C4193cc7ADvjVQa1PpcFP5rdMN4PsDkGTNigh4QVAXvl9mnEjWUc8=
Thanks Scott.
It will be getting F70 14 polyglass tires eventually. But my wife's vette has MT Street / Strip tires that I will "borrow" once in a while when she's not around to find out
Well after about 5 weeks of pulling off the Chevelles to work on race cars, a start up business and many other projects I finally am back at it. Painting the 70 in the next day or so and putting the 69 together are back on my radar. I'll post pictures as I go.
Got a nice 12 bolt dated coded housing from Derek last weekend and got to look at some neat cars.
So Dave a new buffer is back in action.
I think I'll have a dyno session this week or very early next on the 427. We balanced it and blue printed it. It is a solid lifter cam and has all the parts that the COPO would have except bumped the cam a little... With Bryan's help on the part numbers I found a NOS set of correct head bolts.
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 15th of May 2012 10:02:49 PM
I don't think you're going to want those skinny polyglass tires on there. It will look like a dog chasing it's tail when you stick your foot in it....
I don't think it will be a problem cause it will have to spin both tires with the posi in it.
I have a second set of SS rims with daily driving tires T/A's.
Picked up the engine and paperwork. Correction 502.2 HP. Stock Holley carb.
before and after a little excitement with one of my kids I got some work done on the rearend I got from Derek. Should get some guts in it, new bushings and brakes this week.
-- Edited by Tim H on Saturday 19th of May 2012 03:30:01 PM
Engine
Derek, in thirty years your son is going to be saying the same thing
…………………..about you!
-- Edited by dashboard on Monday 21st of May 2012 03:43:32 PM
I don't actually do any of the work on these cars he does it all. He likes convertibles but will work on hard tops with a little pleading.
Tim, looking good!
Looks like the Grandson is pitching in, but he must be a lefty the way he's holding the screw driver.
He always wants to help but he wants everything to be painted red or black..
"Derek, in thirty years your son is going to be saying the same thing
…………………..about you! "
Heck when they are 15 they say things like that.
a little closer
More
few more
Pops, there is NO WAY I'm parking next to you if you bring it to North St. Paul since that is so bitchin!!!
I like seeing that you put on the air pump and the license plate is cool too.
You've come a long way in a short period of time. Seems like it was just a month ago when we stopped over and saw it in fresh paint! There is some true talent in this club, and I'm proud to be part of it.
Looks like it should be ready for No St Paul on Friday .....
I'm gonna die of jealousy...
Placed one last order (famous last words) with NPD today so I should have that stuff tomorrow.
I'm trying but I ain't no John D miracle worker.
Sent you a PM. I may turn the Batlight on tomorrow...
-- Edited by Tim H on Tuesday 26th of June 2012 12:24:14 PM
Sounds like the bat signal is out for retired club members to stop over and give you a hand!
I might be able to stop by tonight or tomorrow night if you want a hand. If not, I understand too as I'd be nervous working on something that nice!
I tried but failed to get done for NSP, I had a shifter issue, wrong one and I need to shorten the driveshaft.
I have to keep telling myself not to cut corners trying to hurry the project along as far as finishing the little pieces. I;ve refinished abiut every nut and bolt from the start and I want to be sure to get them all done.
I have the interior to finish, front turn signals and a few pieces of trim to install. That's about it but it seems I always find another little thing that needs to be done.
I was installing the door glass the other day and thought about Dashboard when I removed the bolts that hold the glass to the tracks.
Brakes, sure am glad I bought the blasting cabinet. I got the 12 bolt all rebuilt new bearings, seals ect and the 4:10 gears.
Between the gears and the M22 it should sound just like a washing machine coming down the road.
Anchors away my friend, anchors away...
I'm pretty sure that stands for 'Anchor Fastener' brand. Duh...