My trailblazer is getting old. I spent 4 hours yesterday fixing a transmission line that developed a pin hole leak due to corrosion by splicing in a transmission hose (corroded in the clip on the engine that holds the lines close). In AWD / 4WD it has a moan / chirp sound a when really cold outside when coming to a stop, exhaust needs a little fix and I should probably replace the fuel pump assy, as I can smell gas occasional after filling up (known trailblazer problem).
So what is your opinions on the F150 with 3.5 twin turbo versus the 5.3 Silverado? I am a GM guy but the Silverado is a new model year and already heard of a recall. I don't recall hearing issues with Ford F150?
Comments?
Thanks
Chris R said
Feb 2, 2014
Mechanically they are both very good trucks so you cant go wrong with either. I dont know much about the 6 cylinder Ford but I have been told its quite the engine. I personally prefer the looks of the GMC Sierra over the Silverado myself.
Derek69SS said
Feb 2, 2014
I tend to keep my junk until it falls apart, so in that regard I'd rather have the simple pushrod V8 over the complex twin turbo OHC V6.
Tim H said
Feb 2, 2014
I just went through this decision myself. Ford is having issues with the turbo because of the pressure the fuel system operates at. I was advised by a fiend who works for Ford to stay away from the turbo until Ford fixes the issue.
There is one out there on half tons just couldn't find it.
And my last Silverado saved my grandson's and my life.
-- Edited by Tim H on Sunday 2nd of February 2014 03:24:06 PM
more ambition than brains said
Feb 3, 2014
The less complex the better.
I would rather have a lazy big motor than a really hard working little one. The 5.3 has been really a great motor.
Karl
Enganeer said
Feb 3, 2014
That's what I am leaning towards.
jim larson said
Feb 4, 2014
What about Fords 5.0? I have been looking at both and the Ford is a little less expensive. They want $10000 to trade up to the 2014 Silverado from my 2012 Silverado with same equipment. I guess I will wait a couple of years.
dashboard said
Feb 4, 2014
I think when the new 2015, F 150 comes out this fall there could be some good deals on 2014 F150s still on the lot. Might also help drive down prices on the Chevy.
Toyota makes a nice truck that has a good track record.
jim larson said
Feb 6, 2014
It will be interesting how the all new aluminum truck is received by buyers.
Lost in the 60s said
Feb 6, 2014
There would be no twin turbos for me either. One is enough to replace when it quits and you limp home at half power.
The 5.3 in my 2000 Silverado has been a dependable engine that delivers decent mileage for a 4X4.
I like the looks of the '14 Chev/GMC trucks but the cost of a new cowboy Cadillac has gotten way out of my budget. I'll have to wait until they are 4-5 years old to afford one.
Chris R said
Feb 6, 2014
Another truck with a good track record, whether people refuse to believe it or not is the Dodge Ram.
Tanaman said
Feb 8, 2014
I agree. I sure miss my Ram, they are worth a look as long as you are looking.
dashboard said
Feb 9, 2014
My thinking is, loyal Ford buyers may put off buying a new Ford pickup until the 2015 is out and they have a chance to see the reviews and check out its new design. This could cause an increase in 2014 truck inventory on dealers’ lots and thus a price reduction on 2014 trucks 60 to 90 days after the 2015’s are on the street.
The Chevy loyalist may enjoy prices reductions as Chevy dealers try to stay competitive with Ford truck pricing.
It will also be interesting to see what comes next in the evolution of pickup truck innovation. I thought the GM four wheel steering was going to be the big step forward in trucks but I think there where to many issues.
I’d like to get a pickup truck but like Mitch I’ll need to find a used one. The good news is the market here is full of used pickups.
I should have bought this one.
THAT is a nice old truck. I have my '69 K1500 GMC 4x4 for sale... Realizing I'm too deep in the classic car scene and most likely never gonna finish it. It would be great for those level 2 days...
Enganeer said
Feb 9, 2014
I got it pretty much dialed into a Z71 crew cab with the 5.3.
Talked with a dealer and they would only give me $1K for my Trailblazer for trade in. So I am on the fence...Do I keep the truck and fix the quirks when it warms up and sell. It only has 162500 on it and some rust on the rear doors.
Financing is another game to play.
SShink said
Feb 9, 2014
Enganeer wrote:
Talked with a dealer and they would only give me $1K for my Trailblazer for trade in. So I am on the fence...Do I keep the truck and fix the quirks when it warms up and sell. It only has 162500 on it and some rust on the rear doors.
Have you gone onto kbb.com or edmunds.com and looked up the private owner resale value? That would determine for me whether or not to sink any more $$ into it, or take the grand on trade in and never look back.
Chris R said
Feb 9, 2014
Try shopping at a few different dealers. Dont forget to check other brand dealers to see what they have on thier used car lots.
Enganeer said
Feb 10, 2014
Stopped by the bank this morning and they could do 2.99% for me and would beat anything the dealer would offer, so armed with that I was off looking again.
Browsed a fricken ton of dealers inventory from all over the metro and I got much more proficient at searching now that I know what I was looking for (I overloaded researching a couple of times, which messed with my sleep).
Since Bryan works at Friendly Chevrolet, I figure I would checked them out and found exactly (missed it the first time) what I wanted at a great price and they gave me double the trade in value for my Trailblazer, which was right in line with what I wanted. Played a minimal game with financing as I would only accept what my bank rate was offering or lower and they made it a happen. I did not feel like running back to the bank to get maybe a 1/4% less and went with Friendly and drove the truck home.
I know I will miss my Trailblazer, cleaning it out, I even found the windows sticker but do love this new truck, all 30 miles so far ;) .
So I now own a Blue granite Z71 Crew Cab short bed with the 5.3 engine, All Star package and heated seats.
-- Edited by Enganeer on Monday 10th of February 2014 09:33:31 PM
dashboard said
Feb 10, 2014
Come on John, you know the rules. Pictures, pictures ya gota post em.
Enganeer said
Feb 10, 2014
Here is one from the dealership.
Jon H said
Feb 10, 2014
SWEET RIDE!! Congrats.
SShink said
Feb 11, 2014
Congrats John! You'll love it. I love my 11 year old 125K mile extended cab GMC Sierra 4X4 with the 5.3. It gets decent mileage, rides smooth, and theer's a place to throw car parts!
Lost in the 60s said
Feb 11, 2014
WOW, NICE
No used truck for you.
I like the 2014's...
Derek69SS said
Feb 11, 2014
I'm really liking the 2014 styling as well.
dashboard said
Feb 11, 2014
Very nice, love the color, and you can get the whole family in there. I’m now suffering from pickup truck envy.
Chris S said
Feb 11, 2014
Nice truck John! I bought a new one similar to yours in 2011. Best truck I have owned.
SShink said
Feb 12, 2014
Chris S wrote:
Nice truck John! I bought a new one similar to yours in 2011. Best truck I have owned.
Not to steal the topic, but welcome Chris S. on your first post!
Now we have Chris P., Chris R., and now Chris S.
Chris R said
Feb 12, 2014
SShink wrote:
Chris S wrote:
Nice truck John! I bought a new one similar to yours in 2011. Best truck I have owned.
Not to steal the topic, but welcome Chris S. on your first post!
Now we have Chris P., Chris R., and now Chris S.
We need a Chris Q now to make it consecutive. Welcome.
SShink said
Mar 7, 2014
Well John E., now that you've bought a new truck, I can say that as of today I paid off my 11 year old/126K mile GMC Sierra, and man does it feel good!
Not trying to rub it in, but this feels as good as running an 11 second quarter mile (at least what I think it would feel like if I ever went that fast... Lol).
So of course I had to look up the KBB value, and I'm amazed that a truck this old and with this many miles in good condition still has a private seller value of $10K. I plan on driving the wheels off it for awhile, so not looking at selling it until it get's closer to the dreaded 185K mile mark (just before 200K miles...), so at my rate of 8K miles per year, I have another good 8 years with it.
Of course, it will probably rust out before then since I have a little cancer starting on the bottom of the driver door front corner (typical for these trucks), so maybe I will have to have Tim H. give it the buff/n/shine treatment.
SteveS said
Mar 7, 2014
SShink wrote:
Well John E., now that you've bought a new truck, I can say that as of today I paid off my 11 year old/126K mile GMC Sierra, and man does it feel good!
Not trying to rub it in, but this feels as good as running an 11 second quarter mile (at least what I think it would feel like if I ever went that fast... Lol).
So of course I had to look up the KBB value, and I'm amazed that a truck this old and with this many miles in good condition still has a private seller value of $10K. I plan on driving the wheels off it for awhile, so not looking at selling it until it get's closer to the dreaded 185K mile mark (just before 200K miles...), so at my rate of 8K miles per year, I have another good 8 years with it.
Of course, it will probably rust out before then since I have a little cancer starting on the bottom of the driver door front corner (typical for these trucks), so maybe I will have to have Tim H. give it the buff/n/shine treatment.
You're gonna keep it for 8 more years? That's like 12 new Chevelles from now for you.
My Tahoe is about 300 miles from the 200,000 mile mark, wish a new truck was in my future but this one will have to keep running for awhile.
Derek69SS said
Mar 7, 2014
I've been looking at the '08-13 body style Silverado crew cabs in the 100k mile range... they sure are pricey yet.
dashboard said
Mar 7, 2014
Speaking of pickup trucks; I ran across this one at a restoration shop here in Ohio. The owner is going to do a frame off brakes, suspension, LS conversion and new black paint. I like it just the way it is.
Is that a real deal Yenko dealership truck, or a clone? If it's real, that's sacrlige to restore it!
Derek69SS said
Mar 7, 2014
I'm also thinking pretty serious about this truck...
*working on getting the pic to work*
-- Edited by Derek69SS on Friday 7th of March 2014 04:08:17 PM
Derek69SS said
Mar 7, 2014
OK, here it is...
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
Enganeer said
Mar 7, 2014
No worries Stan, good that you have it paid off. My trailblazer was looking pretty corroded underneath and after cutting and splicing the rusted out section of the transmission line, I was dreading the next thing that might need fixing and did not look forward to trying to repair something in the cold again. The timing was right as my gm points were going to start to expire, plus 2 yr no maintenance and 5 yr /100K power train warranty, I can focus on other things, like not laying on my back when it's -10.
I thought of used trucks but they were all high price and can be a crap shoot for how well they were maintained. I figure the trucks are holding their value, so not worried about buying new, it will be probably about 10-15 years before I by again. Almost done with my accessorizing for now.
GO for it Derek....I love those years of truck. Throw in some big brakes, lsx engine and trans, and you have yourself a nice daily driver.
Lost in the 60s said
Mar 8, 2014
Derek69SS wrote:
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
When you are amorous and want some "attention"....
Truck looks pretty good for a MN one. Check for rust around the hood and door hinge/cowl area. They seem to be worst in that area. Fender doesn't look too bad. How are the floors. rockers and cab corners/supports ??
dashboard said
Mar 8, 2014
SShink wrote:
Is that a real deal Yenko dealership truck, or a clone? If it's real, that's sacrlige to restore it!
It's a copy but done very well with the worn paint on the fenders and doors even the Yenko logo and lettering was aged. There also a set of GM inner fenders bolted to the bed floor just for show. I think it's a shame to change it, I'm tempted to dial the phone number to see if someone answers.
Lost in the 60s said
Mar 8, 2014
dashboard wrote:
I'm tempted to dial the phone number to see if someone answers.
867-5309....ask for Jenny....
jim larson said
Mar 8, 2014
Picked it up last Tuesday. Fourth new truck in the last 10 years. Average cost has been about $2500 per yr, plus the sales tax when trading. Think this will be the last truck.
Picked it up last Tuesday. Fourth new truck in the last 10 years. Average cost has been about $2500 per yr, plus the sales tax when trading. Think this will be the last truck.
Wow, $2500/year is pretty reasonable to stay in a new truck. What age and mileage have you been trading them in at?
jim larson said
Mar 9, 2014
Derek69SS wrote:
jim larson wrote:
Picked it up last Tuesday. Fourth new truck in the last 10 years. Average cost has been about $2500 per yr, plus the sales tax when trading. Think this will be the last truck.
Wow, $2500/year is pretty reasonable to stay in a new truck. What age and mileage have you been trading them in at?
Usually at about 12,000 per year. Lewiston, mn; except this year went to black river falls.
Back in Black said
Mar 11, 2014
Derek69SS wrote:
OK, here it is...
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Can't say that I've ever personally tested that theory though.
Lost in the 60s said
Mar 11, 2014
Back in Black wrote:
Derek69SS wrote:
OK, here it is...
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Can't say that I've ever personally tested that theory though.
liar
Derek69SS said
Mar 11, 2014
Back in Black wrote:
Derek69SS wrote:
OK, here it is...
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Can't say that I've ever personally tested that theory though.
I live by that theory. I buy most of my cars that way.
I slipped up and accidentally mentioned it before finalizing a purchase this time.
Back in Black said
Mar 11, 2014
Lost in the 60s wrote:
Back in Black wrote:
Derek69SS wrote:
OK, here it is...
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Can't say that I've ever personally tested that theory though.
liar
You saw my pants go up in flames eh?
Lost in the 60s said
Mar 11, 2014
Back in Black wrote:
Lost in the 60s wrote:
Back in Black wrote:
Derek69SS wrote:
OK, here it is...
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Can't say that I've ever personally tested that theory though.
liar
You saw my pants go up in flames eh?
If you know the saying, there's a reason....
When I "acquired" my '88 IROC about 8 years ago, I had entered a bid and was watching the counter go down during the last 2 minutes of the auction on ebay. My wife walked up and said "don't you DARE buy that car", so with 6 seconds left, I pushed the mouse away but my finger accidentally clicked the left button. The house was VERY quiet for the next 7 days...
dashboard said
Mar 12, 2014
Lost in the 60s wrote:
When I "acquired" my '88 IROC about 8 years ago, I had entered a bid and was watching the counter go down during the last 2 minutes of the auction on ebay. My wife walked up and said "don't you DARE buy that car", so with 6 seconds left, I pushed the mouse away but my finger accidentally clicked the left button. The house was VERY quiet for the next 7 days...
Mitch, to the casual reader that somewhat implies that you released one of your carriages back to the general population at some time in your past life.
“but my finger accidentally clicked the left button” now that’s an interesting technique, can you use that one more than once?
bowtie said
Mar 12, 2014
Chris P-remember the look I got when we pushed the red car up the driveway? I still do to this day almost 14 years later.
Lost in the 60s said
Mar 12, 2014
dashboard wrote:
Lost in the 60s wrote:
When I "acquired" my '88 IROC about 8 years ago, I had entered a bid and was watching the counter go down during the last 2 minutes of the auction on ebay. My wife walked up and said "don't you DARE buy that car", so with 6 seconds left, I pushed the mouse away but my finger accidentally clicked the left button. The house was VERY quiet for the next 7 days...
Mitch, to the casual reader that somewhat implies that you released one of your carriages back to the general population at some time in your past life.
“but my finger accidentally clicked the left button” now that’s an interesting technique, can you use that one more than once?
I sold the IROC to buy the GTO....
Um, the finger slip resulted in a seven day "penalty", if you know what I mean, and I haven't had any desire for that to happen again.
My trailblazer is getting old. I spent 4 hours yesterday fixing a transmission line that developed a pin hole leak due to corrosion by splicing in a transmission hose (corroded in the clip on the engine that holds the lines close). In AWD / 4WD it has a moan / chirp sound a when really cold outside when coming to a stop, exhaust needs a little fix and I should probably replace the fuel pump assy, as I can smell gas occasional after filling up (known trailblazer problem).
So what is your opinions on the F150 with 3.5 twin turbo versus the 5.3 Silverado? I am a GM guy but the Silverado is a new model year and already heard of a recall. I don't recall hearing issues with Ford F150?
Comments?
Thanks
Mechanically they are both very good trucks so you cant go wrong with either. I dont know much about the 6 cylinder Ford but I have been told its quite the engine. I personally prefer the looks of the GMC Sierra over the Silverado myself.
I just went through this decision myself. Ford is having issues with the turbo because of the pressure the fuel system operates at. I was advised by a fiend who works for Ford to stay away from the turbo until Ford fixes the issue.
Also check this out
www.youtube.com/watch
There is one out there on half tons just couldn't find it.
And my last Silverado saved my grandson's and my life.
-- Edited by Tim H on Sunday 2nd of February 2014 03:24:06 PM
The less complex the better.
I would rather have a lazy big motor than a really hard working little one. The 5.3 has been really a great motor.
Karl
What about Fords 5.0? I have been looking at both and the Ford is a little less expensive. They want $10000 to trade up to the 2014 Silverado from my 2012 Silverado with same equipment. I guess I will wait a couple of years.
Toyota makes a nice truck that has a good track record.
It will be interesting how the all new aluminum truck is received by buyers.
The 5.3 in my 2000 Silverado has been a dependable engine that delivers decent mileage for a 4X4.
I like the looks of the '14 Chev/GMC trucks but the cost of a new cowboy Cadillac has gotten way out of my budget. I'll have to wait until they are 4-5 years old to afford one.
Another truck with a good track record, whether people refuse to believe it or not is the Dodge Ram.
The Chevy loyalist may enjoy prices reductions as Chevy dealers try to stay competitive with Ford truck pricing.
It will also be interesting to see what comes next in the evolution of pickup truck innovation. I thought the GM four wheel steering was going to be the big step forward in trucks but I think there where to many issues.
I’d like to get a pickup truck but like Mitch I’ll need to find a used one. The good news is the market here is full of used pickups.
I should have bought this one.
www.ebay.com/itm/271378947618%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
THAT is a nice old truck.
I have my '69 K1500 GMC 4x4 for sale...
Realizing I'm too deep in the classic car scene and most likely never gonna finish it.
It would be great for those level 2 days...
Talked with a dealer and they would only give me $1K for my Trailblazer for trade in. So I am on the fence...Do I keep the truck and fix the quirks when it warms up and sell. It only has 162500 on it and some rust on the rear doors.
Financing is another game to play.
Have you gone onto kbb.com or edmunds.com and looked up the private owner resale value? That would determine for me whether or not to sink any more $$ into it, or take the grand on trade in and never look back.
Try shopping at a few different dealers. Dont forget to check other brand dealers to see what they have on thier used car lots.
Stopped by the bank this morning and they could do 2.99% for me and would beat anything the dealer would offer, so armed with that I was off looking again.
Browsed a fricken ton of dealers inventory from all over the metro and I got much more proficient at searching now that I know what I was looking for (I overloaded researching a couple of times, which messed with my sleep).
Since Bryan works at Friendly Chevrolet, I figure I would checked them out and found exactly (missed it the first time) what I wanted at a great price and they gave me double the trade in value for my Trailblazer, which was right in line with what I wanted. Played a minimal game with financing as I would only accept what my bank rate was offering or lower and they made it a happen. I did not feel like running back to the bank to get maybe a 1/4% less and went with Friendly and drove the truck home.
I know I will miss my Trailblazer, cleaning it out, I even found the windows sticker but do love this new truck, all 30 miles so far ;) .
So I now own a Blue granite Z71 Crew Cab short bed with the 5.3 engine, All Star package and heated seats.
-- Edited by Enganeer on Monday 10th of February 2014 09:33:31 PM
Here is one from the dealership.
Congrats John! You'll love it. I love my 11 year old 125K mile extended cab GMC Sierra 4X4 with the 5.3. It gets decent mileage, rides smooth, and theer's a place to throw car parts!
WOW, NICE
No used truck for you.
I like the 2014's...
Not to steal the topic, but welcome Chris S. on your first post!
Now we have Chris P., Chris R., and now Chris S.
We need a Chris Q now to make it consecutive. Welcome.
Well John E., now that you've bought a new truck, I can say that as of today I paid off my 11 year old/126K mile GMC Sierra, and man does it feel good!
Not trying to rub it in, but this feels as good as running an 11 second quarter mile (at least what I think it would feel like if I ever went that fast... Lol).
So of course I had to look up the KBB value, and I'm amazed that a truck this old and with this many miles in good condition still has a private seller value of $10K. I plan on driving the wheels off it for awhile, so not looking at selling it until it get's closer to the dreaded 185K mile mark (just before 200K miles...), so at my rate of 8K miles per year, I have another good 8 years with it.
Of course, it will probably rust out before then since I have a little cancer starting on the bottom of the driver door front corner (typical for these trucks), so maybe I will have to have Tim H. give it the buff/n/shine treatment.
You're gonna keep it for 8 more years? That's like 12 new Chevelles from now for you.
My Tahoe is about 300 miles from the 200,000 mile mark, wish a new truck was in my future but this one will have to keep running for awhile.
Speaking of pickup trucks; I ran across this one at a restoration shop here in Ohio. The owner is going to do a frame off brakes, suspension, LS conversion and new black paint. I like it just the way it is.
Is that a real deal Yenko dealership truck, or a clone? If it's real, that's sacrlige to restore it!
I'm also thinking pretty serious about this truck...
*working on getting the pic to work*
-- Edited by Derek69SS on Friday 7th of March 2014 04:08:17 PM
OK, here it is...
Wife says "no" but since when do I listen to her?
I thought of used trucks but they were all high price and can be a crap shoot for how well they were maintained. I figure the trucks are holding their value, so not worried about buying new, it will be probably about 10-15 years before I by again. Almost done with my accessorizing for now.
GO for it Derek....I love those years of truck. Throw in some big brakes, lsx engine and trans, and you have yourself a nice daily driver.
When you are amorous and want some "attention"....
Truck looks pretty good for a MN one. Check for rust around the hood and door hinge/cowl area. They seem to be worst in that area. Fender doesn't look too bad. How are the floors. rockers and cab corners/supports ??
It's a copy but done very well with the worn paint on the fenders and doors even the Yenko logo and lettering was aged. There also a set of GM inner fenders bolted to the bed floor just for show. I think it's a shame to change it, I'm tempted to dial the phone number to see if someone answers.
867-5309....ask for Jenny....
Picked it up last Tuesday. Fourth new truck in the last 10 years. Average cost has been about $2500 per yr, plus the sales tax when trading. Think this will be the last truck.
Wow, $2500/year is pretty reasonable to stay in a new truck. What age and mileage have you been trading them in at?
Usually at about 12,000 per year. Lewiston, mn; except this year went to black river falls.
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. Can't say that I've ever personally tested that theory though.
liar
I live by that theory.
I buy most of my cars that way. 
I slipped up and accidentally mentioned it before finalizing a purchase this time.
You saw my pants go up in flames eh?
If you know the saying, there's a reason....
When I "acquired" my '88 IROC about 8 years ago, I had entered a bid and was watching the counter go down during the last 2 minutes of the auction on ebay. My wife walked up and said "don't you DARE buy that car", so with 6 seconds left, I pushed the mouse away but my finger accidentally clicked the left button. The house was VERY quiet for the next 7 days...
Mitch, to the casual reader that somewhat implies that you released one of your carriages back to the general population at some time in your past life.
“but my finger accidentally clicked the left button” now that’s an interesting technique, can you use that one more than once?
I sold the IROC to buy the GTO....
Um, the finger slip resulted in a seven day "penalty", if you know what I mean, and I haven't had any desire for that to happen again.